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a lessee has knocked down plaster ceilings and walls on the

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a lessee has knocked down plaster ceilings and walls on the top floor of a Victorian property as a commencement to substantial refurbishment.   she was unaware of the need to apply for a licence to alter.  she has now down so though the licence has not yet been completed. she has complained to the freeholder that the building roof is damaged and the whole structure must be replaced. the freeholder is concerned that the demolition of the plaster ceilings has caused damage to the roof but cannot prove it and has had great difficulty obtaining access. is the demolition of the plaster walls and ceilings without a licence a sufficient breach of covenant to consider issuing a s.146 action? in the lease plaster coverings form part of her demise.  the lessee is abusive, aggressive and generally obstructive with the landlord's builder or other representatives and matters have more or less reached an impasse. the building's other lessees are convinced that this woman's agenda is to create a recreational space on the roof that only she will have access to.  the freehold wishes to institute forfeiture proceedings if it can find a sufficient basis to do so as it is evident this lessee is going to be a continuing problem.  

Submitted: 4 years ago.
Category: UK Property Law
Expert:  Stuart J replied 4 years ago.

Hello, I am Law
Denning and I am a practising solicitor in a High Street practice. I have been
an expert on this website in UK law since 2008. During that time, as you
appreciate, I have answered thousands of questions from satisfied users on a
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It is my pleasure to try and assist you with this today. Please bear with me
while I gather some further information from you in order for me to be able to
advise you fully.

Just because she is an
obnoxious leaseholder and is going to create future problems, does not give you
the right to foreclose on the lease , even for section 146 purposes. If the
court was satisfied that you were using section 146 for any other reason than
for s146 purposes, then your application, would fail automatically

Whether she is allowed
to remove nonstructural things such as plasterboard walls and ceilings really
comes down to what is included in her demise. In that respect, it is necessary
to study the lease in minute detail as it is with regard to the alterations
that she has done and whether she needs a licence to alter which it appears she
does that is almost completed in any event, it seems.

Whether the roof is
damaged or not comes down to the evidence of the surveyor. It is unlikely that
removing ceilings or walls would affect that although it depends on exactly
what she removed. Once again, it comes down to a surveyor's report.

She is not able to use
the roof space, unless the roof space is in her demise, so I cannot see that
she can create a recreational space on the roof (a roof terrace?) Without the
freeholders consent of course, she may be completely responsible for the roof
in which case, then subject to agreement from the freeholder, she may be able
to do what she wants to do. The freeholder would not be able to unreasonably
withhold that consent.

She would of course
need planning permission and it may be that in order to apply for planning
permission, she has to seek the consent of the landlord. Once again, it is
necessary to consult the lease in detail.

To answer your
question as to whether it's a sufficient breach of covenant to issue a section
146 action would come down to what is included in her demise and exactly what
breach she has done. Let me tell you now that the usual remedy would not be
forfeiture, but it would be reinstatement. I am afraid that you are unlikely to
get rid of her that quickly because the court's view is that forfeiture of the
lease, or a breach of covenant is, more often than not, a disproportionate
remedy to the breach itself.

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and honestly, even if that advice is unfavourable.

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