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2.4 engine surging on idle and under load driving. 2.4

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2.4 engine surging on...

2.4 engine surging on idle and under load driving

Mechanic's Assistant: How many miles are on the car? What size is the engine?

2.4 166000 2005 highlander

Mechanic's Assistant: Are you fixing your Highlander yourself? What have you tried so far?

New plugs, cleaned pvc valve, disconnected exhaust and drove with same problem, compression test ok, new rear o2 sensor. no codes. vacuum is steady. unplugged brake booster and plugged vacuum and same problem

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Toyota Mechanic: Mechanic01, ASE Certified Technician replied 5 months ago
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Are you getting a check engine light on?

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Customer reply replied 5 months ago
No not even pending
Toyota Mechanic: Mechanic01, ASE Certified Technician replied 5 months ago

Ok have you checked fuel pressure in the failure condition and also checked maf signals and clean it?

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Customer reply replied 5 months ago
I put new plugs in. New downstream ox sensor.
Compression. Was around 180 in all cylinders. Disconnected brake booster and plugged vacuum end and same result. Cleaned pvc valve. Disconnected exhaust, front cat looks good and I also drove it disconnected and same result. All vacuum and intake tube looks good. Cleaned map sensor. Plugs looked good when I remove them. There is a lot of air coming out of oil fill cap though. Don’t know if that is normal for this car. I have a action cp9180 scanner for real time data if that helps
Toyota Mechanic: Mechanic01, ASE Certified Technician replied 5 months ago

you dont want a lot of air coming out of the oil cap, I would monitor fuel pressure first of that ok, do a head gasket test, if thats ok would start checking timing components like your vvt solenoid for debris

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Customer reply replied 5 months ago
Checked VVT out of the truck and was clean and worked with 12 volts attached. dry Compression test all cylinders were around 180. I have not checked fuel pressure since i have to update my tool from GM. But the Throttle body is noisy and makes a lot of noise when it opens and closes. I attached a video of it.
I read in all data diy that if it makes friction noises replace it.
But I don't know if it is actually is causing the surge at idle and under load.
thanks john
Toyota Mechanic: Mechanic01, ASE Certified Technician replied 5 months ago

that dosent sound that bad, is there a way you can slowly open the throttle plate and monitor the voltage to see any irregularities?

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