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A/c light started blinking and...
Ok so on father in laws 2006 RAV4 limited with auto A/C, the A/c light started blinking and av shut off, at the time it had code 22 in HVAC comp. Inspected it and found the clutch to have very slight physical damage, I assumed this was the root cause for the code 22. Replaced compressor, desicant bag and expansion valve along with flushing system and an evacuation and recharge ,also found no signs of compressor internal failure. Started vehicle and engaged A/C and system worked great, until I shut off A/C on test drive then won't reengage and only blows outside air. I stop and look under hood and clutch is engaged I have a steady av light. I evac and recharge again assuming I somehow screwed up the level, and it does the same thing works great until I shut it off then never comes on again. Pressures were normal while cooling. But low side was high and high was low while not cooling almost equal within 20-30 psi. Frustrated at the vehicle I revved the engine and the compressor began to pull down low side and high side increased and everything worked wonderfully until vehicle shut off the here we go all over again. I have 2 codes in the av system for solar sensors. I have a leak free av system that is properly oiled and charged. Fans are functional coolant full. I'm out of ideas that I can verify or test other than a weak clutch or bad compressor. Anyone seen this before?
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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Sorry phone autocorrected A/C to av.
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Toyota Mechanic: Eric, Automotive Repair Shop Manager replied 2 years ago
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HI,
Ok, the cause is the ambient temperature(solar sensors) that are setting codes. The sensor send a signal to cut the compressor off if temperature outside goes below I believe 50 degrees. If the sensor is not recording outside temperature incorrectly , it shuts the compressor off. You need to replace the ambient temperature sensor to correct the problem
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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
I went down that train of thought but the clutch is engaging on the compressor when ac is commanded on again after shutoff.
Toyota Mechanic: Eric, Automotive Repair Shop Manager replied 2 years ago
HI,
When you shut it off, it resets the temp sensor which takes time to recycle and start reading again.
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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
ok, but how much time does it take? As it is currently the system will not cool again until either A) it's been evacuated and recharged, or B) you bounce the tach off redline. Then it will work as long as the car is running and no one touches the ac button of course. Is there a spec you have to test the sensors?
Toyota Mechanic: Eric, Automotive Repair Shop Manager replied 2 years ago
HI,
What are the fault code numbers so I can upload the exact testing procedure
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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
I've got codes 21 and 24 in the hvac comp.
Toyota Mechanic: Eric, Automotive Repair Shop Manager replied 2 years ago

HI,

Ok, my bad. I was thinking the ambient temp sensor in front of vehicle instead of the actual solar sensors mount in dash top pad. I doubt both solar sensors are bad, but these 2 codes can also be set be a faulty ac amplifier that they send a signal to. This is also know as the ac accleration cut amplifier, which would be the reason that you can get it to re-engage when you redline it. Again, it will reset when you turn the engine off and then back on.

I uploaded the testing for the solar sensors and the ac amplifier as well as a diagram of locations, and honestly, I would do the test for the amplifier first, as it is your likely culprit, rather than both sensors failing at the same time

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
I will check it ( amplifier) in am and get back with ya
Toyota Mechanic: Eric, Automotive Repair Shop Manager replied 2 years ago
HI,
Ok, sounds good.
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Toyota Mechanic: Eric, Automotive Repair Shop Manager replied 2 years ago
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Toyota Mechanic: Eric, Automotive Repair Shop Manager replied 2 years ago
I noticed we have not yet resolved your concern you asked about. I would sure appreciate it if you would reply so I can offer my skills and knowledge and repair guide access to help as best I can.
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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
I have not been able to check the vehicle yet, when I do, I will let you know.
Toyota Mechanic: Eric, Automotive Repair Shop Manager replied 2 years ago
HI,
Ok, sounds good
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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Ok new ac amplifier in and still acting the same.
Toyota Mechanic: Eric, Automotive Repair Shop Manager replied 2 years ago
HI,
did the old one test bad?
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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
According to the test for the solar sensor it stated if sensor test bad replace ac amplifier so I did
Toyota Mechanic: Eric, Automotive Repair Shop Manager replied 2 years ago
HI,
Hmmm, it has to be in the wiring then. The bottom set of tests is for the wiring to check continuity in the wiring, we need to do that
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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Continuity is good, so aside from electrical is there anything mechanical that could give my symptoms
Toyota Mechanic: Eric, Automotive Repair Shop Manager replied 2 years ago
HI,
Good wiring and new amplifier, I am stumped at this point to be honest. I am going to opt out and see if any other experts know where the issue lies. Sorry I could not help more
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