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I will be getting a distribution from my recently deceased

mom's irrevocable trust soon....
I will be getting a distribution from my recently deceased mom's irrevocable trust soon. The trustee (also a beneficiary & relative) is asking for a fee, but wants to include that fee in my distribution, then I gift it back to him. Will the total amount of the distribution (including the fee that I gift back to him) be on the K-1 that I get, and will I be responsible for any tax implication on the amount gifted back?
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Lane :

Hi,

Lane :

your instincts are good,

Lane :

... don't know why they want to include this that way, however, trustee fees should be a deduction for the trust anyway

Lane :

Now, the gift BACK unless it's more than 14,000 would not be taxable from a gift tax perspective

Lane :

it' woulod, however be on the K-1, if the trustee want tot include it on the distribution

Lane :

sorry for the typos it "would,." however ... "wants to" include it ...

Customer:

I believe he wants it this way to avoid his fee as taxable income. I'm afraid if I agree, this will come back to haunt me

Lane :

ahhh, yep .. no it will only haunt you to extent of a little bit of YOUR taxable income

Customer:

I was told that the distribution is not taxable to me since it is from an irrevocable trust. How would this affect my taxable income?

Lane :

but nothing from a gift tax perspective AND only taxable to the extent that the dist IS taxable

Lane :

ok , sorry looks like our posts crossed

Lane :

It depends on what the distribution is from

Lane :

it's not that is from an irrevocable trust it's that the income probably is not taxable as it's coming from principle

Lane :

In THIS scenario it makes ... neither of you wold pay any tax

Customer:

the entire trust was invested in stocks, etc, and yes, the majority of the distribution is from principle. There is only a wee bit of interest income, but (again, as I'm told) not enough for there to be a capital gain. So, there should be no harm in getting a K-1 stating one amount, but I am truly receiving an amount less than what is stated on the K-1

Lane :

:) you're right ... BUT what you gift to someone else is your business

Lane :

and I'm guessing it's not enough to be taxable from a gift tax perspective

Customer:

correct

Customer:

thank you

Lane :

you ARE receiving it ... you're just making a gratuitous gift with part of it

Lane :

YW, .. very astute, you are

Lane :

If this HAS helped, I would appreciate a rating of 3 (OK) or better. (Excellent is ideal)… That’s the only way they pay us here.

Lane :

However, if you need more on this, please come back here, so you won't be charged for another question

Lane :

Lane

Customer:

ok

Lane :

Thanks much

Customer:

I guess my real issue is being concerned that this will haunt me a few years down the road

Customer:

and that I will get fined for back taxes on an amount I never received

Lane :

NO.again your response (should it arise, and I truly believe that it will not) should be the truth ... you gave this to this person and did not have to. I WOULD... most definitely make the trustee give a check for the full amount (that's your documentation) THEN, again, what you do with that money is your business

Lane :

Again you ARE astut if the trustee is asking only to pay you the net amount

Customer:

thank you for letting me bounce this off. I've surfed the web for a week now trying to find an answer. I appreciate your time. Thank you.

Lane :

You're very welcome

Lane :

Let me know if I can help further

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Hi Kati,

... just checking back in here,as I never saw you come back into the chat.

Again, let me know if you need anything else.

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Thanks so much Katie!

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