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How Can a aquirer company get the benefit of carry forward ...

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How Can a aquirer company get the benefit of carry forward losses (NOL''s) of target company keeping in mind section 382 limitation. What''s the best way to structure a deal so that the aquirer can benefit from the NOL''s of the target company?
Submitted: 9 years ago.
Category: Tax
Customer: replied 8 years ago.
Relist: I still need help.
Expert:  jgordosea replied 8 years ago.



The utilization of NOL after merger or acquisition of corporations is complex and there are several restrictions by law.


As you mentioned, when the stock ownership changes by more than 50%, under section 382 of the Code, a corporation's income each year against which the NOLs can be applied after the acquisition is limited.


Under section 269 of the Code, if the primary purpose of a corporation acquiring another corporation's property is securing the benefit of tax attributes, including NOLs, it cannot use those tax attributes. If the acquiring company pays no more than a fair market price for the stock (not just the assets) of the acquired company in most cases this should satisfy the tax avoidance test. The parties involved should exercise caution to avoid the appearance that the tax benefit is a primary benefit of the transaction. The improved profitability and economics of purchasing the business should be the main reason and the tax beneift must be secondary to that reason.


Even if the restrictions under section 269 and section 382 are not applicable, when the acquired corporation continues as a separate corporation the consolidated return group rules mandate that post acquisition losses can be applied only against its own income and not against that of other members of the group. You need to consider what the future prospects are for each of the companies if operated separately.


When it applies, Code Section 384 flatly prohibits the use of a "pre- acquisition loss" (other than that of the gain corporation) to offset recognized built-in gains of a gain corporation during the recognition period. A "pre-acquisition loss" is any net operating loss (NOL) carryforward to the taxable year of acquisition, and any net operating loss incurred in that year to the extent it is attributable to a period before the acquisition date. For Code Section 384 to apply, the two following conditions must be met. First, there must be an acquisition (direct or indirect) of control of another corporation, and one of the corporations involved in the acquisition must be a "gain corporation." Code Section 384 does not apply if the loss corporation and the gain corporation were members of the same "controlled group" of corporations during the five years before the acquisition.


These types of reorganizations must be performed precisely in order to allow utilization of losses. You will need a tax attorney experienced in these matters. You will need to count the cost before making the decision.


You will also need to consider the state tax implications as the state treatment may or may not follow the federal treatment of the transaction. Please see this article State tax treatment of net operating loss carryovers in corporate acquisitions which also includes a review of the federal statutory scheme.


I hope that this general basic information on the use of NOL in corporate reorganizations is helpful as you confer with your professional advisors with all of the facts and circumstances.

Customer: replied 8 years ago.
I need to understand How section 382 limitations are calculated. How mush of lossess can be carried forward and set off and for how many years it can be set off? How FMV is ascertained in sec 382 limitation calculation?
Expert:  jgordosea replied 8 years ago.



The mechanics of the computation is a separate question from how to structure the transaction to "get the benefit of carry forward losses (NOL''s) of target company" .


IRC Sec. 382(k)(5) defines the value of the acquired corporation as fair market value. In determining value, the price at which the loss corporation stock changes hands in an arms length transaction would be evidence, but not conclusive evidence of the value of the stock. If there were other transfers of a significant block of stock at a price other then the price paid for the acquired corporation within twelve months of the purchase that would be evidence that the purchase price would need to be adjusted; otherwise the price paid will be accepted as the fair market value of the stock. For details see the article at


The amount that can be deducted annually is limited to a percentage of the value at the date of change of ownership. The percentage is the highest federal long-term tax-exempt rate for the month during which the change in ownership occurs and the preceding two months.


As mentioned, this is can be of the more complex areas of the tax code to properly apply. For an article with more information see the white paper SECTION 382 LIMITATION ON NET OPERATING LOSS CARRYFORWARDS


I hope this information is useful as you confer with an experienced tax practitioner providing all the facts and circumstances of your case in order to be able to make the computations correctly.


Best wishes.




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Customer: replied 8 years ago.
<p> </p><p>Thank You sir, The only thing i Could not get from it is For How many years I can avail such losses.(15 or 20 years) .</p>
Expert:  jgordosea replied 8 years ago.

You are welcome,


For federal income tax, a corporation must first carry that loss back to the third prior year, then to the second prior year, then to the first prior year, then forward 15 years.

Section. 172(b)3) allows the corporation an election to just carry the net operating loss forward. You will use up to 15 years to carry forward the NOL; but when Sec. 382 limits the amount of loss carryforward that may be used use each year the entire loss may not be used within the 15 years. For more information please see


State rules may be (and often are) different both in the computation of the NOL and the years that are allowed for carryforward.


I hope this helps to clarify for you.


Best wishes.