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How do I️ find out when mother (deceased) changed her surname and get a copy of record she used
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Social Security Expert: emc011075, Tax Adviser replied 5 months ago
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Hi. My name is ***** ***** I will be happy to help you.

Social security records are not public records. Are you an executor of her estate or do you have a power of attorney to handle her financial affairs?

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Customer reply replied 5 months ago
I ammarried name with social security? her son. She passed away January 1979. The name change would have occurred between 1940 - 1945? There are no living relatives. I am the only child. Ihave been doing a genealogy research. I have all the info on mothers side but nothing for father. No paper trial no living relatives. Mother changed her maiden name in 1940 to married name in social security. It is my hope that a document was used to make that change and would give me more info to trace father?
Social Security Expert: emc011075, Tax Adviser replied 5 months ago

Even if the social security had the information, it will not release it without Power of attorney. Social security related information, including name changes is not a public record.

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Social Security Expert: emc011075, Tax Adviser replied 5 months ago

You may have a better luck at the courthouse or church she got married. They still may have some records.

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Customer reply replied 5 months ago
If I only had that information. Social security gave me information when she originally applied for card for genealogy reasons.
Social Security Expert: emc011075, Tax Adviser replied 5 months ago

Telling you when she applied is not the same as telling you specifics from her application. I am sorry, I cannot help you.

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Social Security Expert: James Daloisio, Tax Attorney replied 5 months ago
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Hi, my name is ***** ***** perhaps I can add a bit to this conversation.

If your mom changed her name with Social Security when she married, there should be a new form SS-5 with her married name on it.

You may request a copy of her SS-5 from the Social Security Administration by completing form SSA-711, here:

https://www.ssa.gov/forms/ssa-711.pdf

SSA says that they have records from 1936 on. In order to change names, a new application is required, so your mom's transcripts should show two separate applications (SS-5's.). When you submit the request, make sure you ask for both the original application AND the computer extract. It's $21 for the original application and $27 for the computer extract.

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Customer reply replied 5 months ago
I understand what you wrote. I have a copy of her original application for SSN. What I am seeking is when she changed her surname to married name and changed name for SSN a copy or reference of document used to change the name. SSA-711 does not have area for such request unless there is another form for such info.
Social Security Expert: James Daloisio, Tax Attorney replied 5 months ago

Social Security requests the original document upon which a name change is based; you may bring it to your local office or you can mail it and they'll return it to you. However, they do not retain a copy of it. When your mother changed her name, she would have been required to show a copy of the marriage certificate or marriage license. That document will not be available from the SSA. The only document they have will be the application that is required to change your name, in effect, a second SS-5. To specifically request this document, if they actually have it, you should go to the online FOIA request site, here:

https://foiaonline.regulations.gov/foia/action/public/request/createRequest

You can tell them exactly what you're looking for and hope for the best!

I see that you're trying to obtain genealogical info on your father. You can use the FOIA website to do an "all agencies" search on his name; you may come up with something previously overlooked. Let me know how you make out. These cases fascinate me. Perhaps I can give you more ideas as you progress.

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