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If one is still working at age 70 and still has health

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If one is still working at age 70 and still has health insurance via an employer group plan, is it mandatory that one has go on Medicare? Thank you.

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I know that I will have begin receiving social security at age 70. But I would prefer to remain on my group plan. Even though I am self-employed as a Financial Adviser, I have participated in a group plan fo the past 32years that is offered by one of the primary companies that we do business with. The total current group plan participations greatly exceeds 100 people.

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I referenced the fact that I am in the financial planning business. As such I am totally self employed as a the President/ owner of our firm. We gave other advisors in the firm. Some of which participate in the same group health plan as I do.

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Social Security Expert: Lane, JD,CFP, MBA, CRPS replied 8 months ago
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Social Security Expert: Lane, JD,CFP, MBA, CRPS replied 8 months ago

Generally, if you are eligible for Medicare because you are over 65, the employer must have more than 20 employees to be the primary payer.

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As long as you document that you have a GROUP PLAN, you are not required to take Medicare part B (NO reason not to take part A, as it's free and MAY cover gaps that your group plan doesn't cover).

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Now, Social Security Retirement benefits are a different story. Given that the delayed retirement credits (DRC's), no longer to add to your retirement benefit, NOT taking the retirement benefit is simply leaving money on the table.

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But yes, you have NO reason to take Medicare Part B (which comes with a premium) unless you are NOT covered under a GROUP health plan.

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Social Security Expert: Lane, JD,CFP, MBA, CRPS replied 8 months ago

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
The information provided was very general and information I already know. The last answer relates to my initial question. However, in lieu of the other generalities I just read, is the last answer specifically addressing the age 70 issue and whether at age 70 is one required to drop the group coverage and enroll in Medicare?
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Social Security Expert: Lane, JD,CFP, MBA, CRPS replied 8 months ago

There is NO requirement to drop group coverage at age 70.

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You, at least apparently, are confusing the age 70 issues that exist as relates to Social Secutiy reitrement benefits, to Medicare part B and group heal insurance issues.

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TWO UNRELATED ISSUES

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Social Security Expert: Lane, JD,CFP, MBA, CRPS replied 8 months ago

As long as you have group health insurance provided by an employer for whom you are still working, you can delay enrolling in Part B, which covers doctors visits and other outpatient services and requires a monthly premium. When you eventually retire, or leave work, you'll be entitled to a special enrollment period of eight months to sign up for Part B without incurring a late penalty.

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(not sure where you'regetting this age 70 stuff ... again, unless you're confusing retirement benefits with Medicare part B)

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
The age 70 stuff in regard to group health vs. Medicare B is coming from our local Social Security office. Your answer was also my opinion concerning topic. However, the S.S. office is disagreeing. I did not have any other questions that needed an answer.
Social Security Expert: Lane, JD,CFP, MBA, CRPS replied 8 months ago

This one's n ot an opinion. It's Federal law. You're correct.

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The clerks on the front lines at Social Securities these days are atrocious.

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My bet would be that you would get a different answer if you go back and talk to another person (and very possibly a third answer is you went back again). ... not unlike what happens at IRS these days

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