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Windfall Elimination Provision: I am A CSRS retiree and paid into Social Security for approximately 15 years. Why am I not entitled to full social security benefits that I have paid. Also why is my wife also penalized??
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Customer: Based on my experience I get a explantation, then if a refund is provided for I will pay a percentage. The WEP is discriminatory and should be resolved.
JA: Is there anything else important you think the Retirement Accountant should know?
Customer: WEP discrimination to CSRS retirees is a good start, including WEP provisions to Spouse, not a federal retiree.
Submitted: 11 months ago.Category: Social Security
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Social Security Expert: Lane, JD,CFP, MBA, CRPS replied 11 months ago
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Hi. My name's Lane. I can help with this.

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I hold a law degree, with concentration in Tax Law, Estate law & Corporate law, an MBA, with specialization in finance, a BBA, and CFP & CRPS designations, as well - I’ve been providing financial, Social Security/Medicare, estate, corporate, non-profit, and tax advice, since 1986.

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Social Security Expert: Lane, JD,CFP, MBA, CRPS replied 11 months ago

First a couple of foundational things.

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The W.E.P. IS discriminatory ... the whole Social Security System is discriminatory ... HEAVILY weighted to the lower income. It's a form of social insurance.

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The WEP was signed into law by Ronald Reagan to shore up the social security system when projections showed that it was beginning to fail (it only takes a few years of receiving Social Security to get everything you ever paid in the form of FICA ... DO the math ... after that Social Security benefits are being funded by current taxpayers).

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The WEP for the worker's own work record benefit (and the GPO for the workers spousal and survivor benefits) only applies TO the worker that has a pension form a non-social security system.

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If you have a full 30 years in the social security system the WEP does not reduce your social security benefit and the GPO does not reduce any spousal or survivor benefit that might be coming to you.

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The WEP can never completely eliminate your social security benefit. The GPO, however, can completely take any spousal or survivor benefit to zero (The GPO reduces Social Security Spousal and Survivor benefits by 2/3 of you non-Social Security pension)

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With that foundation laid... exactly what is your question?

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