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Timecutter 5000, no crank, battery good, new sollenoid, no

Customer Question

Timecutter 5000, no crank, battery good, new sollenoid, no voltage on starter side of solenoid, both gen and blue wires on side of solenoid have voltage in crank position? Isn't green a ground, I can jump solenoid to crank and no start
JA: Do you have fuel in the tank? If so, is the shut-off valve open and the fuel clean?
Customer: Fuel yes, valve open, new fuel
JA: Do you plan on doing the work yourself?
Customer: Yes
JA: Anything else we should know to help you best?
Customer: Sat all winter but park brake stuck few time last season, slight tap got it going
Submitted: 2 months ago.
Category: Small Engine
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 2 months ago.

Welcome to JUST ANSWER small engines, let me try to help you !! I don't know it all, but maybe together we can get you a satisfactory answer!

Expert:  Curtis B. replied 2 months ago.

Mower has arm switches, and seat and brake switches, all will stop starter function. Check each switch for sticking, arm switches on zero turn are the usual problem.

Customer: replied 2 months ago.
How to check or disable
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 2 months ago.

Look at the switches , to be sure they are moving, if thy are stuck and do not spring back, need to be rplaced or freed up. Or use a volt/ohm meter to check for continuity.

Customer: replied 2 months ago.
Parking brake would not release in the past but still started, tapped on accutuator and worked fine, all I have is test light
Customer: replied 2 months ago.
Both grn and blue wires on solenoid light up when in crank position only and starter side of solenoid is dark
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 2 months ago.

So solenoid does not click closed? If it has power and ground, it should close.?? And this is new solenoid! Is four wire solenid?

Customer: replied 2 months ago.
New
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 2 months ago.

If you jump the wires to solenoid, direct from battery can you close the solenoid?

Customer: replied 2 months ago.
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 2 months ago.

Ok, are you getting 12 volts to the solenoid to close it with keyswitch?

Customer: replied 2 months ago.
12.9 at battery side, nothing on the other
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 2 months ago.

you said blue and green light up when key was turned to start?

Customer: replied 2 months ago.
Correct
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 2 months ago.

Where is green and blue wires?

Expert:  Curtis B. replied 2 months ago.

schematic for start.

Expert:  Curtis B. replied 2 months ago.

Green and blue should close the solenoid if they have 12 volts!

Customer: replied 2 months ago.
Green and blue on solenoid
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 2 months ago.

If they had voltage before, why don't they now? Did you see the starting diagram I sent?

Customer: replied 2 months ago.
Is there a fuse between switch and solenoid that would keep it from cranking,
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 2 months ago.

Only fuse is between the starter solenoid and the keyswitch.

Customer: replied 2 months ago.
Fuses were good, 12 volt at green and blue on solenoid could it be a bad safety switch somewhere
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 2 months ago.

I don't understand why solenoid does no close if it has voltage.? Reading the past responses. Does the starter turn the engine if solenoid is jumped? You said no start, I assumed engine was cranking, but not starting.??

Customer: replied 2 months ago.
Does crank from the solenoid, doesn't start, key does operate electric choke and that it
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 2 months ago.

Does your mower have the electric brake actuator?

Customer: replied 2 months ago.
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 2 months ago.

If you look at the schematic, the blue and green wire go to the brake actuator, 8 and 11 terminals.

Customer: replied 2 months ago.
Both 12volt only when key is at crank position
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 2 months ago.

O< see the actuator, and trace each of the safety switches from switch to actuator.

Customer: replied 2 months ago.
Ok
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 2 months ago.

Actuator is the brain of the safety circuits.

Customer: replied 2 months ago.
Could it cause the problem, rather expensive, can I bypass it
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 2 months ago.

I Don't see a way to bypass. I would check each circuit up to the actuator.

Customer: replied 2 months ago.
Ok, it did give me a problem last fall, and slightly tapped on actuator to release stuck brake
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 2 months ago.

Not one of Toro's best ideas, usually brakes can't be released.