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Setting up the governor on 22hpB&S, yes I messed with

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Setting up the governor on 22hpB&S, yes I messed with it:(... now it was flooding out the cylinders.
Submitted: 11 months ago.
Category: Small Engine
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 11 months ago.

Governor will not cause the cylinders to flood the cylinders. Is the choke flap opening, or is the choke staying closed? Did you adjust the throttle cable or choke link?

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
I have not touched the cable or the choke lever
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 11 months ago.

Does the engine run? I not, and cylinders are wet, you have lost spark.??

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
Bit, I will need to fix the governor setting now also
Customer: replied 11 months ago.
It will not run at all now
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 11 months ago.

Check for spark at the plugs, by removing and grounding the plugs/ I think you have lost spark, and the kill wire to the coils is grounding out the spark.

Expert:  Curtis B. replied 11 months ago.

If it has spark, and does not run, check the valves, this twin engine can have pushrods off!

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
Just check spark, yes... cylinder squirting fuel out of it
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 11 months ago.

I would check the valves, I see pushrods off on this model engine. You would have spark and fuel and compression, but valves will not be opening!

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
Can you tell me how to check that easily?
Customer: replied 11 months ago.
Phone battery is almost dead, will need to follow up once charged up
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 11 months ago.

Remove te two OHV covers and see if all the valves are moving when cranking.

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
Valves rods are all on rockers. Cleaned up choke spring, throttle linkage... started up, but lack of throttle control. RPM are way high right away.
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 11 months ago.

OK, back to the governor control. You know the governor lever and rod going into the engine. With engine OFF, loosen the governor lever and hold it in the full open position on the carburetor, then turn the governor shaft CCW, till it bottoms, and then tighten the lever bolt to the shaft. Crank engine and be prepared to shut it off it it goes too high. If it does, do adjustment again, but turn the governor shaft CW, and try again.

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
Good evening, I'm back at it. I turned the governor shafts full CCW, made a few small adjustments and still runs way fast without throttle control.
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 11 months ago.

I f you hold the governor lever and throttle it manually, do you get movement from the governor ever, push or pull? If not the inner governor parts may be damaged. How did this all start, that you were messing with governor?

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
The main issue I had was black poof of smoke... did the basic, air and fuel filters. Everything I was reading pointed to the governor
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 11 months ago.

k, if governor has movement, try adjusting it CW.

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
Moved it CW, still no throttle control
Customer: replied 11 months ago.
Moved it CW, still no throttle control.
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 11 months ago.

Do you feel the governor pushing or pulling the governor lever?

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
The spring pressure yes, rod feels like it moves freely
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 11 months ago.

Governor is a weighted assembly inside the engine, when engine rpm rises it moves out, and pushes the governor inner rod, which moves the external lever. If governor level has no movement from internal parts when engine is reved , it is not working. ??

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
Doesn't seem to have movement from the governor
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 11 months ago.

That is what I thought, the inner parts are broken, and the only way to get it to work is to remove the engine from the frame and remove the sump, to access the governor.

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
That is not what I really wanted to hear.... sounds like I will be busy after work tomorrow night.... full engine disassemble to access or just the bottom half?
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 11 months ago.

Just the bottom, to get at the governor and the lever to it.

Expert:  Curtis B. replied 11 months ago.

I see question still open, did you find the governor to be broken?

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
Awaiting parts , nobody in the area has them in stock.
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 11 months ago.

Dd you take it apart? What did you find?

Customer: replied 10 months ago.
Good evening, we opened up the engine and found the governor broke in many pieces. Ordered and installed the new parts, and the second governor also exploded . Any thoughts of how, why ?
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 10 months ago.

Overspeed? Or the top cap installed wrong, so the weights move too far.

Customer: replied 10 months ago.
How would I keep it from overspending? the cap was between the weights and the snap ring.
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 10 months ago.

Did it go to overspeed as soon as it started? You have to be prepared and hold the linkage, to keep engine from over-speeding until you get the governor set right. Dd you get a manual showing the governor install?

Customer: replied 10 months ago.
We used the youtube information, I will make sure not to go into overspeed condition. Read other posting of the stud for the governor backing out . How much stud showing should there be ?
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 10 months ago.

Not sure, but it should bottom out, take a brass punch and hammer and give it a good whack to see if it moves in. I will lock for manual that may give the length showing.

Expert:  Curtis B. replied 10 months ago.

Hear is a manual, shows Generac, but is Briggs Intek, that Generac uses.

Expert:  Curtis B. replied 10 months ago.

No information given on the governor shaft depth.

Customer: replied 10 months ago.
Good morning, do you have the part number to the " crank seal" for my lawn tractor?
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 10 months ago.

Crankshaft seal? flywheel end or drive end? or you ant governor shaft seal?

Customer: replied 10 months ago.
Crank shafts seal, as I was putting the dang bottom back on the seal spring popped out, and it may be easier just to swap out the seal...
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 10 months ago.

The spring can be slipped back into the seal, but the number is ***** #795387 for the sump side.

Customer: replied 10 months ago.
Thank you
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 10 months ago.

Thank you. id you find the inner parts of the governor to be ok?

Customer: replied 10 months ago.
Good afternoon Curtis, I finally got a day off. Now continuing on the mower project.i received and installed the governor, and new crank shafts seal. I also bought new spring- governor # 798921, and spring governed idle #691019. My next question is to verify the location. Of each spring.
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 10 months ago.

part 1

Expert:  Curtis B. replied 10 months ago.

Picture below # 1

Expert:  Curtis B. replied 10 months ago.

Picture # 2

Customer: replied 10 months ago.
Thank you for your patience.... now to set the governor again.
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 10 months ago.

OK>

Customer: replied 10 months ago.
Verification, lift up on throttle, CCW on governor shaft and tighten the nut ?
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 10 months ago.

Are you holding the throttle open at the carburetor manually while you turn the shaft CCW?

Customer: replied 10 months ago.
throttle full, and shaft CCW.
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 10 months ago.

OK> Try that and be prepared to shut if off if it has no control!

Customer: replied 10 months ago.
Started, had no throttle control. I Shut it down early ...
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 10 months ago.

OK< go back an set it with the shaft all the way CW.

Customer: replied 10 months ago.
Better.... does not over speed. Throttle control is not full range.
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 10 months ago.

Ok, so just make minor adjust. Is throttle cable going full, or can it be moved ?

Customer: replied 10 months ago.
I think WE, have it, minor adjustments. But now it doesn't overspeed. Now for the real test, 2 acres of yard... thank you again.
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 10 months ago.

OK! When ready use the 5 star rating system to close the question and get me credit! Thanks.