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My cub cadet lax 1050 has problems cranking. It

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Hi, my cub cadet lax 1050 has problems cranking. It intermittently starts but takes several turns of the key for this to happen. I have checked the solenoid and it seems to be activating. I have also pulled the starter motor apart and besides some rusty spots, which I cleaned there does not appear to be anything wrong with it either. Any suggestions? Thanks Brian
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Technician: Briggs-Fan, Small Engine Technician replied 2 years ago
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Hi my name is ***** ***** welcome to Just Answer . It sounds like the ignition could be the issue . When you turn the key does it click when the motor doesn't turn over ?

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
I can hear the solinoid click in but the starter motor does not engage
Technician: Briggs-Fan, Small Engine Technician replied 2 years ago

If you can hear it click everytime it's not the ignition , could be the solenoid being the starter isn't slipping or grinding right ?

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
I have checked the solinoid by removing it and hooking directly to the battery, engaged every time.
Technician: Briggs-Fan, Small Engine Technician replied 2 years ago

Ok have you removed the spark plugs and see if it will turn over every time ? , if so it could be a compression build up in the engine. Have you done a compression reading on the engine ?

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
I don't think it is compression, the starter motor simply does not engage every time but when it does it starts the motor quite easily
Technician: Briggs-Fan, Small Engine Technician replied 2 years ago

If the starter and solenoid are both working when you tested them then the next thing to suspect besides compression is the ignition switch itself

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Ok, how do I check that?
Technician: Briggs-Fan, Small Engine Technician replied 2 years ago

Do you have a multimeter ? , if so you can test the ohms in it

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
I have a multi meter what am I checking
Technician: Briggs-Fan, Small Engine Technician replied 2 years ago

This video will give you a basic idea

http://youtu.be/q8G7kxCl9hY

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Technician: Briggs-Fan, Small Engine Technician replied 2 years ago

You have to remove the switch and look at the letter of each terminal.and then check the ohms when turning the key , etc , this should show if the switch is sending signal every time the key is turned

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Technician: Briggs-Fan, Small Engine Technician replied 2 years ago

When you turn the key do you get lights every time ?

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Technician: Briggs-Fan, Small Engine Technician replied 2 years ago

I'm on eastern time so if I don't respond back right away it's because it's 12:00 midnight here but I will check to see if you replied first thing in the morning

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Technician: Briggs-Fan, Small Engine Technician replied 2 years ago

Hi just wondering if you were able to test the switch ?

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Hope the pictures tell you a little more, brian
Technician: Briggs-Fan, Small Engine Technician replied 2 years ago

Ok I can look into it further but if the starter works every time and the solenoid has been tested it seems like the switch could be not engaging every time the key is turned

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Having trouble sending, will try again
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
It does seem odd that power is going through the switch to the starter but it is not activating. Is there a safety switch that is preventing it engaging brian
Technician: Briggs-Fan, Small Engine Technician replied 2 years ago

It could be you have safety switches in the seat , brake clutch pedal etc

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
How do I test for that
Technician: Briggs-Fan, Small Engine Technician replied 2 years ago

http://youtu.be/Xi3p465MN1E

This video will show you how to test switches with a multimeter

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Thanks, ***** ***** a few days testing as I am busy. Get back to you as soon as possible. Thanks brian
Technician: Briggs-Fan, Small Engine Technician replied 2 years ago

Ok brian sounds good

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
I have checked the brake/ clutch safety switch and it follows the pattern shown in the video however the seat safety switch has four poles in line and if I connect the two outer poles and then the two inner ones I get a different result. Both sets of terminals show continuity when the switch is open and nothing when engaged. Brian
Technician: Briggs-Fan, Small Engine Technician replied 2 years ago

As in when it's pushed in as in seats on it ?

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
when sitting on it there is no continuity between any of the pole, brian
Technician: Briggs-Fan, Small Engine Technician replied 2 years ago

So it sounds like the switch isn't allowing spark

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
If it was the spark I was worried about, yes, but the starter motor does not spin! Brian
Technician: Briggs-Fan, Small Engine Technician replied 2 years ago

What I meant was the switch isn't allowing current so it's not going to put power to the starter . The only time you should be able to fire the tractor up when your not on it is when the parking brake is locked . So if the switch is bad even when you are sitting on it ( button of switch pressed in ) the circuit still thinks it's closed so the starter is getting no juice

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Technician: Briggs-Fan, Small Engine Technician replied 2 years ago

So it sounds like the switch could be a issue , have you locked the parking brake and tries to see if it will crank ?

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
How can I short circuit the switch until I can get a new one, brian
Technician: Briggs-Fan, Small Engine Technician replied 2 years ago

Have you tried locking the e brake

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
I assume you mean the foot brake, it has to be locked for the mower to start, so yes it is locked
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
I eventually called a local and he said 9 times out of 10 it is the clutch switch and it was. Perhaps next time I won't waste time and money on this system. Brian
Technician: Briggs-Fan, Small Engine Technician replied 2 years ago

You can test the clutch switch .

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