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I have a 2007 Vue...
I have a 2007 Vue that is making a terrible noise, and I can’t seem to figure out where it’s coming from. It is a sort of loud rattling/clunking noise that varies in volume and speed, but seems to be independent of speed, rpm, road conditions, temperature, etc. These things seem to affect it, but not completely control it. Here are a couple of scenarios (all of them happen frequently, but not all the time):
1. When starting (regardless of ground level), it will be a slow/medium speed knocking sound that seems to:
A) increase in speed and volume in correlation with engine rpm, or
B) stop at a higher rpm
2. When idling on unlevel ground, slightly faster sound than idling on level ground. Similarly affected by rpm.
3. When driving, it will be a sound similar to before, but will go away when slightly pressing the gas a little more. Then when the engine rpms are higher, shortly before a gear change, the sound will swell in volume and the speed of the sound will get incredibly fast, sounding as though something is about to blow up, then as soon as it shifts into the next gear, it will either go away or become slow and quiet again.
4. Sometimes after driving for an extended period, the sound will completely go away until the next time I start the car.
Btw, this is an automatic transmission and v6 engine. The car has 177k miles and has done it since I bought it (used).
Submitted: 3 months ago.Category: Saturn
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Saturn Mechanic: Shawn Few ,
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Hi , I see that your question has been sitting for a while and has not been answered ,I m sorry for your wait and I like to assist you on it , if you still have not had the issue resolved

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Customer reply replied 3 months ago
I have not resolved the issue
Saturn Mechanic: Shawn Few ,
 replied 3 months ago

IS THERE A CHECK ENGINE LIGHT ON ?

HAVE YOU SCANNED IT , WHAT WERE FAULY CODES ?

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Customer reply replied 3 months ago
No check engine light.
Saturn Mechanic: Shawn Few ,
 replied 3 months ago

BE HARD WITH OUT HEARING IT ,

MAKE A YOU TUBE VIDEO AND SEND ME LINK

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Customer reply replied 3 months ago
I could only get a video while idling, so it’s not very loud or fast, but maybe enough to tell.
https://youtu.be/SCprHtNjeX4
Saturn Mechanic: Shawn Few ,
 replied 3 months ago

Thank you for video Yes I can hear it , but faintly but I can hear it

,

2 possibilities

1-Trans related

this hear sound like coming from transmission if you saying sounds worse right before changing , like transmission pump noise , the faster you go and especial when in any gear and at the point of gear change that is when you need the highest line pressure from transmission pump , that is my best calculated guess and these transmission pumps do fail on them , but I would want to raise it on car lift ,get stethoscope ,cranked ,have some body in it and listen up close ,in different position , idle in gear , in reverse etc ,to be accurate .

2- Engine related , I would take belt off and run it , is the noise still there ,if it goes away , start spinning pulleys by hand to see if any idler , pulley , etc making that noise , check any play in crankshaft pulley

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Customer reply replied 3 months ago
When a coworker was looking at it a few days ago, he said it wasn’t coming from the pulleys, but seemed to be coming from a little further back.
Saturn Mechanic: Shawn Few ,
 replied 3 months ago

if it is coming from further back, then we have timing chain tensioner, or trans pump whine

it will need to be raised on car lift and use a stethoscope and have it some body in the car and run it and you listen from bottom to be sure here

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