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I just bought a Saab and there is error code 1260 and 1251…

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I just bought a...

I just bought a Saab and there is error code 1260 and 1251 what's that mean ?

Mechanic's Assistant: How many miles are on the car? Do you have scan tool or a code reader?

130k

Mechanic's Assistant: What is the model/year of your Saab?

1999 9.5 turbo wagon

Mechanic's Assistant: Are you fixing your Turbo yourself? What have you tried so far?

1260 is fuel pump speed relay control circuit

Mechanic's Assistant: Anything else you want the mechanic to know before I connect you?

1251check engine lamp from control module low ?

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Saab Mechanic: Eric, Automotive Repair Shop Manager replied 6 months ago
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Hi,

Is it the 2.3 turbo or 3.0 turbo engine

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Customer reply replied 6 months ago
Help
Customer reply replied 6 months ago
3.0
Saab Mechanic: Eric, Automotive Repair Shop Manager replied 6 months ago

HI,

Ok, give me a couple of minutes to review these codes and causes

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Customer reply replied 6 months ago
I just know I think a bought a piece of junk
Saab Mechanic: Eric, Automotive Repair Shop Manager replied 6 months ago

HI,

Ok, not sure where you got those fault definitions but they are incorrect for your specific vehicle.

1999 Saab 9-5 Wagon (9600) V6-3.0L Turbo (B308)

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P1260 Throttle Return Spring. Too Low Force

P1251 Throttle Motor. Full PWM in Closing Direction.

You will need to replace the throttle body assembly in order to repair and get rid of these 2 codes.

Being an 18yr old vehicle, this failure is not unusual or sign that the vehicle is junk.

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Customer reply replied 6 months ago
Is this a costly repair ?
Customer reply replied 6 months ago
I realized also after the muffler and exhaust is rotted out needs replaced
Customer reply replied 6 months ago
Hello
Saab Mechanic: Eric, Automotive Repair Shop Manager replied 6 months ago

HI,

please be patient as it takes a couple of minutes to lookup up labor time and parts prices

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Customer reply replied 6 months ago
Sorry
Customer reply replied 6 months ago
Never does ask question thing
Customer reply replied 6 months ago
Done
Saab Mechanic: Eric, Automotive Repair Shop Manager replied 6 months ago

HI,

Throttle body runs around $325 for the part

Labor is 1.2 hours, abour $120

Total about $445

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Customer reply replied 6 months ago
Can I repair it myself or my son is learning auto repair , how to replace the whole exhaust system
Customer reply replied 6 months ago
I give you 4 stars
Customer reply replied 6 months ago
What about the exhaust ?
Saab Mechanic: Eric, Automotive Repair Shop Manager replied 6 months ago

The throttle body is fairly easy to replace at home. Give me a couple of minutes and I can post directions.

The exhaust system you really need a lift in order to replace it, and you may need a torch to cut rusted bolts.

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Customer reply replied 6 months ago
What's the cost of new exhaust system and can affect the throttle body the turbo was replaced at 100k miles
Customer reply replied 6 months ago
How much would this cost at a muffler shop or repair shop exhaust ?
Saab Mechanic: Eric, Automotive Repair Shop Manager replied 6 months ago

HI,

How much of the exhaust has to be replaced - muffler, tailpipe, exhaust pipe, catalytic converter?

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Saab Mechanic: Eric, Automotive Repair Shop Manager replied 6 months ago

And no, it wont affect the throttle body

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Customer reply replied 6 months ago
It's all rotted from where it comes out the motor I think
Customer reply replied 6 months ago
The muffler is full with wholes
Saab Mechanic: Eric, Automotive Repair Shop Manager replied 6 months ago

Hi,

Ok, from the engine back to and including the tailpipe, you will be looking at around $600 parts and labor at an exhaust shop

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Customer reply replied 6 months ago
Does that include the converter ?
Customer reply replied 6 months ago
Catalytic
Saab Mechanic: Eric, Automotive Repair Shop Manager replied 6 months ago

Hi,

Yes. And those prices are for an universal converter, and direct fit exhaust pipe and muffler at an exhaust shop.

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Customer reply replied 6 months ago
Is this something I can do also ?
Saab Mechanic: Eric, Automotive Repair Shop Manager replied 6 months ago

Hi,

You would need a lift like a shop has and a torch.

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Customer reply replied 6 months ago
How do I know it needs a converter ?
Customer reply replied 6 months ago
I have access to both
Saab Mechanic: Eric, Automotive Repair Shop Manager replied 6 months ago

HI,

If it is rattling inside and has holes in it.

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Customer reply replied 6 months ago
What explain ?
Customer reply replied 6 months ago
Where is least expensive place to buy the parts I need ?
Saab Mechanic: Eric, Automotive Repair Shop Manager replied 6 months ago

Saab doesnt provide directions for replacing the exhaust that I can post, but it is straightforward and once you have it on a lift you will be able to see the bolts and the hangers holding the exhaust

Hit the converter with your hand. If it rattles on the inside, then it is broken apart internally and needs to be replaced.

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Saab Mechanic: Eric, Automotive Repair Shop Manager replied 6 months ago

Rockauto.com, Autozone, or OReillys would be the cheapest for the parts

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Customer reply replied 6 months ago
Is this car worth all that? The body is in excellent condition
Customer reply replied 6 months ago
In your opinion
Saab Mechanic: Eric, Automotive Repair Shop Manager replied 6 months ago

HI,

I honestly cannot answer it is worth it or not. I cant see, test, or inspect the engine, transmission, body, tires, interior, suspension, steering, ac, heating, etc in order to tell you

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Customer reply replied 6 months ago
Some people say they are junk
Saab Mechanic: Eric, Automotive Repair Shop Manager replied 6 months ago

It cant be junk if it has last 18 yrs so far

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Customer reply replied 6 months ago
It drives awesome air works tires are new the inside looks new it's i excellent cont the heat works well I drove it today the mileage was per gallon was great I like it but it's 18 years old
Customer reply replied 6 months ago
The turbo was replaced at 100k
Saab Mechanic: Eric, Automotive Repair Shop Manager replied 6 months ago

HI,

If the rest is in good condition, then it would be worth the investment in repairing it

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Customer reply replied 6 months ago
Do they last along time I always driven Hondas I love that kinda car that last forever I had one with 450k miles when it died
Customer reply replied 6 months ago
Are you a Saab repair man ?
Saab Mechanic: Eric, Automotive Repair Shop Manager replied 6 months ago

HI,

They usually last for 300,000 to 500,000 miles.

Yes, I am

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Customer reply replied 6 months ago
Ok do they still make Saab are owned by GM ?
Saab Mechanic: Eric, Automotive Repair Shop Manager replied 6 months ago

HI,

Saab is still made and is indeed owned and manufactured by GM now. Most have GM engines.

It is getting late where I am, so unless you any other question directly related to the original question on the 2 fault codes, I do need to get off line and turn in for the night

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Customer reply replied 6 months ago
Does it or will it hurt to drive like it till I get the repairs ?
Saab Mechanic: Eric, Automotive Repair Shop Manager replied 6 months ago
No it will not hurt to drive. As it is very late, I am logging out 4 the night.
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