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Hi and thanks for writing,
are you here?
Hi and nice to see you
I'm concerned because I took an upper-level humanities course
Yes I can see
here is the thing
you have to go and see the professor and talk to him or her about your particpation
and usually the grade depends on participation, BUT the professor didn't mention participation at all in the syllabus. He only said "there will be a single term-paper at the end of the semester."
and if that matters
can I e-mail him?
I taught for over 25 years at the graduate school level
and yes you can email him
but do get in contact
the thing is, I am dealing with social anxiety & depression. I was diagnosed by a doctor 10 years ago & have been on medication for it but the anxiety has been difficult
okay I understand this but do you think your professor will?
well, he's a liberal, open-minded fellow.
I think that if you were not upfront about this at the beginning of thecourse you can not use thisnow, but just do email him and ask him?
I would just email and ask about class participation
He doesn't strike me as the type that would dismiss something like this out of hand
You know him better than I do
like, if I told him I can get a "note" from the doctor explaining my situation in detail, I doubt he would just say no
but first just ask him about class participation?
yes I just did
good and just wait and see what he says
and then take it from there?
I think if participation were part of the grade, he should have mentioned that in the syllabus
ok, do you think its too late to bring up this social anxiety business?
what is your graduate degree in? philosophy or is this just an elective?
no it's my degree
I'm in the Master's program and want to apply to the ph.d. program but to get in I need very competitive grades
okay and without getting very personal where are you studying?
City University of New York Graduate Center
I taught there for years
and am a twice masters graduate
look, just email him about your concerns about class participation and leave the anxiety diagnosis out of the equation for now?
just say that you are concerned about class participation and want to do well
and see what he says?
ok, I sent him a simple e-mail & the way I structured it was: I asked about something having nothing to do with participation- the term paper. THEN I asked whether the term paper would be our grade for the course, or if there was anything else I needed to submit
So I obliquely skirted the issue of participation directly, & just left it up to him to tell me the grading breakdown for the course
I think you did the right thing
BUT, I'm thinking, if I write an A or A- paper, would he really deduct and give me a lower grade because I didn't participate?
I think that is a separate issue
and you can address this once he responds to you, no?
yes, I am getting ahead of myself, & just have to wait for him to respond to me
If he says, look your class participation was low you can ask what you can do about this
but I would wait for that response first.
what would you do if you were in his situation and were dealing with someone like me?
I would respond to your email
and I would tell you what was needed to ace the class
but I tell you this much, even though I worked in the psych department and not the philosophy department and I am the most liberal person you ever met
I would not like it if one of my students sent me a diagnosis
so, go on your own merit and just say
Look, what do I need to do?
and let him respond
what do you mean by "sent you a diagnosis?
you are GOING TO BE FINE
oh ok I see
like don't even bring up the social anxiety stuff
well if one of my students said.........look I have anxiety and I have been under a docs care for ten years...........I would say?
I think you are fine.
Ok, so maybe I should definitely leave that out. I don't like using that as an excuse, its just a little harder to participate, is all, but I can just tell him I'm really shy
Ok, thanks for your help!
I think you are fine. Drop me a line and let me know how it goes for you?
and remember one thing
all of us
even professors were students once
we all were
OK, will do. He's usually pretty quick responding on the other end of e-mail. So I should hear from him by tomorrow for sure, if not tonight
he seems like he understands that
I think it is wonderful you are at CUNY and so so fortunate
I feel great about it. I just want to get into the Ph.D program philosophy is my life.
you are on the receiving end of such a fine education and so lucky
you must be very very bright
Yes, I feel lucky & am grateful for the opportunity.
Be more confident.
trust yourself much more and if you got into CUNY
Well, its nice after being out of school for years to be back into academia & getting feedback from professional philosophers
you so deserve to be there
thank you, XXXXX XXXXX need to be more confident
and do let me know how this works out for you
I will, for sure. I'll be back in touch within 24 hours.
Warmest wishes from one CUNY grad to another.
Hello, I had asked you a question about grading & participation in this one course I took this past semester at CUNY. I heard back from the professor & he assured me that grading for the course would be based on the term paper alone, & not participation. So I lucked out, but this coming semester, I'm definitely going to participate more in class, just to be on the safe side & to combat my anxiety more effectively. I imagine it will be hardest the first couple of weeks, & will get easier after that. Anyway, thanks so much for your help last night!