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I have a L200 vita spa the heater works but it seems to take

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Hello I have a L200 vita spa the heater works but it seems to take long to heat up a degree or two (say 12 hours or so ) does a heater get lazy after few years
JA: I'll do all I can to help. How long have you been dealing with this?
Customer: I just purchased the tub it heated up but took a long time in my opinion
JA: Do you plan on doing the work yourself?
Customer: yes
JA: Anything else we should know to help you best?
Customer: the temp seems to be a couple of degrees of say the pad is 90 the water temp is 89!
JA: How long has this been going on? And how severe is the problem?
Customer: not severe
Submitted: 11 months ago.
Category: Pool and Spa
Expert:  airheatman replied 11 months ago.

Do you get any error codes such as a limit opening? Sometimes a limit will open cutting the heating element off and on

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
nope no codes
Customer: replied 11 months ago.
dispal tells me that the heater is on if I turn it down spa turns off normal
Expert:  airheatman replied 11 months ago.

Do you have an amp meter to check amp draw on element and see if it is drawing proper amps and staying on?

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
I have a meter
Expert:  airheatman replied 11 months ago.

OK can you send me a picture of wiring diagram and label showing nomenclature of unt?

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
Expert:  airheatman replied 11 months ago.

From looking at the diagram it looks like you have 2 elements.One may be bad. Locate the elements, disconnect wires at elements and ohm the elements to see if perhaps one is open.

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
only one element
Customer: replied 11 months ago.
do for voltage do I terminal and ground on heater
Customer: replied 11 months ago.
kinda confused now lol
Customer: replied 11 months ago.
here are the pics of the board and heater?
Expert:  airheatman replied 11 months ago.

Picture shows 2 heaters. Do you see the other heater terminals .Back up and take a pic a little farther bback

Expert:  airheatman replied 11 months ago.

Should be 2 more terminals like these

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
there isn't
Customer: replied 11 months ago.
those two black wires run to the heater I sent 2 pics on of the board and one of the heater do they use ground as a common ??
there is 10 ohms between terminals on the heater.
Expert:  airheatman replied 11 months ago.

Sorry for some reason I did not get your reply earlier. Did you disconnect the wires to check the ohms? And on call for heat, do we get 230v between these wires?

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
diconected wires there is 115v at each post and for the ohms disconnected heater and there is 10.5 ohms
Expert:  airheatman replied 11 months ago.

OK ohms is good. And the 110 to ground is good, but do we have 220 between? And is the 110present on each wire if test disconnected?

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
Customer: replied 11 months ago.
is the element heating properly
Expert:  airheatman replied 11 months ago.

OK element sounds like it is good.The only thing I could think of is if it cutting out periodocially The elements do not get "weak"

Expert:  airheatman replied 11 months ago.

Do you have a clamp on meter to clamp around wire and see how many amps it draws?

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
how many should it draw
Customer: replied 11 months ago.
its a clamp around
Expert:  airheatman replied 11 months ago.

I wasn't able to locate a manual with this is why I asked about label with nomenclature. There should be a label somewhere that says voltage, amps, model, serial and things like that.It should list amp draw for pumps and element individually.

Expert:  airheatman replied 11 months ago.

If it says 4.5 or 4.8 KW we should be drawing roughly 19 to 21 amps

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
k ill test tomorrow ty for tonite
Expert:  airheatman replied 11 months ago.

I have that one but it is just a users manual. No service data included.

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
should it draw 19 to 21 total with motor running
Customer: replied 11 months ago.
cant get it to show any amps does if I go to the main live!
Expert:  airheatman replied 11 months ago.

WE want amp meter clamped around one wire to element only.

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
Just did that no amps
Expert:  airheatman replied 11 months ago.

Do you have voltage to those terminals but still no amps?

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
Expert:  airheatman replied 11 months ago.

OK element is bad then.

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
But has continuity when wires are off and test element
Expert:  airheatman replied 11 months ago.

I did read in one of the manuals from case and element we should read at least 1 million ohms.

This is from case to terminal. Lets check that way.

Expert:  airheatman replied 11 months ago.

Found that today on page 10 in this manual

http://www.consumerengineering.com/p1.html

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
there was no ohm when I did it from case to terminal
Expert:  airheatman replied 11 months ago.

I am going to say if we have power to the element but element draws zero amps, we have a bad element

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
k thanks I will let you know in a few days order a new one
Expert:  airheatman replied 11 months ago.

Sounds good.

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