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2005 pontiac sunfire: 2.2l..timing chain tensioner..intake..exhaust

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I need instructions on setting...
I need instructions on setting the timing for a 2.2l dual cam engine for a 2005 pontiac sunfire. The timing chain tensioner broke and it has skipped timing. The intake cam is off position and so is the exhaust cam. I know how to get TDC, but i don't know what position the cams should be in.
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Pontiac Mechanic: George H., ASE Certified Technician replied 5 years ago
George H.
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Hello I will help you with your question,

 

The complete chain remove and install is below, about 3/4 of the way through you will see the camshaft gear markings being aligned with the colored links on the chain.

 

Click here for procedure

 

Look this over and let me know what questions you have

 

Thank you

 

 

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Customer reply replied 5 years ago
I can't look at the drop box, it has an error of 404
Pontiac Mechanic: George H., ASE Certified Technician replied 5 years ago

Lets try again, it is a huge .pdf and takes some time to upload.

 

Click here

 

Let me know if you can get that

 

Thanks

 

 

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Customer reply replied 5 years ago
Do i need to create a drop box? Because the same error keeps popping up.
Pontiac Mechanic: George H., ASE Certified Technician replied 5 years ago

No, it should just load as a .pdf and prompt you to open or save. Choose save when you get that far.

 

Try one more time with just the install instructions. That will cut the size down

 

Click here

 

Let me know if that works

 

Thanks

 

 

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Customer reply replied 5 years ago
I tried and i even created an account in dropbox, but nothing is working, it's the same error code. can you find out from Justanswer on what is going on?
Pontiac Mechanic: George H., ASE Certified Technician replied 5 years ago

I will please give me a few minutes, I will post when I have a solution.

 

 

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Customer reply replied 5 years ago
okay, because i all i get is a an error and some kind of box that says dropbox
Pontiac Mechanic: George H., ASE Certified Technician replied 5 years ago

Looks like I have a problem with my cable that is slowing my upload speed to the point it is unusable. I will OPT OUT of your question to open it to all the experts in the hope one of them will be able to post the information for you. If they do not I will upload it as soon as I am able

 

Sorry

 

 

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Pontiac Mechanic: George H., ASE Certified Technician replied 5 years ago

Try this link before I opt out it is a different source

 

Click here

 

Let me know if that works for you

 

Thanks for your patience

 

 

 

 

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Customer reply replied 5 years ago
I tried the link and i try download but nothing comes up. Do i have to sign up for this one also? because it won't show me anything.
Pontiac Mechanic: George H., ASE Certified Technician replied 5 years ago

No you do not and I am so sorry that this is not working for you.

 

I am going to OPT OUT and I am sure another expert will pick up your question

 

Sorry

 

 

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Customer reply replied 5 years ago
Thanks for trying, you couldn't have just emailed the file as compressed file?
Pontiac Mechanic: MrDiag, ASE Certified Tech replied 5 years ago
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Hi, My name is XXXXX XXXXX I am here to answer your Pontiac questions. Please provide as much information as possible so I can better assist you.

Are you able to see the uniquely colored links on the timing chain? There are 3 that are a different color than the rest. You will need to be able to see them in order to set the timing.

Let me know and we can move on from there.
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Customer reply replied 5 years ago
yes i can see them, but i have removed the timing chain already
Pontiac Mechanic: MrDiag, ASE Certified Tech replied 5 years ago
Ok. When you put the chain back in, the three unique colored links will need to line up with the marks on the crank and cams gears. I will try to post a picture of this.
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Customer reply replied 5 years ago
The intake cam is off position and so is the exhaust cam and i don't know where they should be. I know the crankshaft should be on TDC, i just can't match the cams and the crank to the chain (especially the cams).
Pontiac Mechanic: MrDiag, ASE Certified Tech replied 5 years ago
Let me know if you are able to view that picture. You might need to refresh the page.
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Customer reply replied 5 years ago
I can view the picture, but how will i know that the cams are facing the right way. Where do i turn each cam to get the timing right? In other words if the crank is in TDC then which way will the two cams be?
Pontiac Mechanic: MrDiag, ASE Certified Tech replied 5 years ago
Sorry, I too am having some technical difficulties trying to post the lengthy procedure.
There are marks on the cams that wil align with the links on the chain. Put the chain around the intake camshaft sprocket with the timing XXXXX XXXXXned up with 1 of the matching uniquely colored links. (Note the diamond shape by the intake mark on each cam gear and the triangle by the exhaust mark.
You want use the intake mark on intake gear and exhaust mark on exhaust gear, diamond is for intake and triangle for exhaust.)
The mark on the crank should be in the 5 o'clock position, align that with the 1 unique colored link on the chain. (The two other unique links are a different color than this one but matching each other.)
Next, install the chain on the exhaust camshaft sprocket, lining up the mark with the last unique link. I hope this helps. Let me know if you need more information.
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Customer reply replied 5 years ago
are you telling me that the marks on the timing chain will automatically align with the intake and the exhaust gear? okay let's get back to the beginning, how do i know which is my intake and which is my exhaust gear? They both have intake and exhaust on them. Can i get a picture of this please.
Pontiac Mechanic: MrDiag, ASE Certified Tech replied 5 years ago
I am sorry but I can't seem to be able to post them. I have been trying but the ones I posted are the only ones that will upload.

I will have to opt out and let another expert help you. Again, very sorry.
Please do not respond until another expert takes your question so it will remain open to other experts, thanks.
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Customer reply replied 5 years ago
Relist: Incomplete answer.
incomplete and i was unable to get my last question answered. which is the intake gear and cam and which is the exhaust gear and cam. In other words, facing the timing chain, how do i know which is which, since they both have intake and exhaust holes on the gears?
Pontiac Mechanic: George H., ASE Certified Technician replied 5 years ago

I can answer that for you, on the intake cam use the intake marking on the gear to align with the colored link and on the exhaust cam use the exhaust marking. The exhaust cam is on the side of the engine with the exhaust manifold

 

Lets try the procedure once more

 

Click here

 

Let me know if it works

 

Thanks

 

 

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Customer reply replied 5 years ago
yes sir i can see it and that helps, i will accept your answer and i will try it. Can you still answer questions after i accept or will that be a problem?
Pontiac Mechanic: George H., ASE Certified Technician replied 5 years ago

Yes just reply to this thread and I will be notified. There was an issue with uploading the file but I am glad you have it now.

 

Please let me know what I can do to help

 

Thanks

 

 

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