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McLein Weil furnace won't light up. Gas Kitchen stove lights…

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McLein Weil furnace won't light...
McLein Weil furnace won't light up. Gas Kitchen stove lights up. Condenser pan empty. Exhaust pipe open. Solid green light.
I tried shutting the unit off from electrical and gas supply for 15 minutes, then restarting. No dice
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Plumber: Rick, Construction Supervisor replied 8 months ago
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Welcome to Just Answer, my name is ***** ***** I will do my best to help you with your

issue. First I’ll need some more info so I have a more complete picture of your situation.

What model boiler do you have? what type of radiation? copper baseboard? cast iron baseboard? radiators? hot water coil in air handler?

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
Model 1013-200
Radiator heat
Separate from a/c unit
Customer reply replied 8 months ago
Sorry. Boiler model
GV90+5
Customer reply replied 8 months ago
Integrated boiler control model 1013-200
Customer reply replied 8 months ago
Also have a 3-zone switching relay model SR 503 TACO
Customer reply replied 8 months ago
Power light solid green
Start circuit light solid red
Plumber: Rick, Construction Supervisor replied 8 months ago

Ok are any of the zone lights lit on the relay?

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
2 zone lights lit on relay
1 for heat
1 for hot water
Plumber: Rick, Construction Supervisor replied 8 months ago

Is the draft/exhaust fan running on the boiler? what LED's are lit flashing on the boiler control?

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
We just had a power interruption a couple days ago. We haven't used heat yet this fall.
Plumber: Rick, Construction Supervisor replied 8 months ago

Ok, I need you to answer my last 2 questions

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Plumber: Rick, Construction Supervisor replied 8 months ago

any flashing LED's on the boiler control?

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
I don't believe The exhaust motor is running but when I cut off electric supply I can hear a faint electric motor shut off.On the integrated power control, the power light is solid green and the start cirq light is solid red
Customer reply replied 8 months ago
No flashing leds anywhere
Plumber: Rick, Construction Supervisor replied 8 months ago

Turn the power off to the boiler wait a minute then turn it back on. Tell me what LED's lgiht up or flash. Does the exhaust fan start? does the limit LED flash or light up?

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
Power and start circ lights on solid immediatelyNo other lights come onNot 100% sure about exhaust fan but I see a lot or attached to exhaust pipe which is not running.I do hear some faint motor running when it powers up
Customer reply replied 8 months ago
I don't see a "purge" ledThere is a "flame" LED and a "pres switch" LED and a "limit" LED in addition to the other two I mentioned but none of these three light up
Customer reply replied 8 months ago
There are no flashing LEDs anywhere
Plumber: Rick, Construction Supervisor replied 8 months ago

Faint motor could be circulators running. The exhuast vent is connected to the draft/exhaust fan. The purge LED is on an earlier version of this control. If the fan doesn't run nothing else will happen. You need a multi-meter to troubleshoot this further. Do you have one?

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
Not 100% sure about exhaust fan but I see a *motoor attached to exhaust pipe which is not running.
Customer reply replied 8 months ago
motor
Plumber: Rick, Construction Supervisor replied 8 months ago

Ok, awaiting response to my last post

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
I don't have a multimeter. What specs do i need to look for on a multimeter when I get one ?
Plumber: Rick, Construction Supervisor replied 8 months ago

Any multi-meter will do the job. You need to test AC voltage. The possible culprits are a bad fan or a bad control. If you have 120 volts AC to the fan then the fan is bad and you should probably leave this repair to a pro who is familair with this boiler. If there is no voltage to the fan (when power and circ LED's lit) then you probably have a bad control. I suspect a bad control because you should have at least a flashing LIMIT LED at this stage.

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
OK it may take me an hour or so to get a hold of a multimeter should we just leave this conversation open in the meantime ?
Plumber: Rick, Construction Supervisor replied 8 months ago

The thread won't go away and I'll answer related follow up questions even after you rate me favorably. I'd appreciate a favorable rating.

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
Let's get this job done. Then we talk about ratings.
Plumber: Rick, Construction Supervisor replied 8 months ago

All I can do is walk you through the troubleshooting which I've done. I can't gurantee an outcome if you do the work. I do take breaks. I'll respond as soon as I can when you get back

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
Understood
Plumber: Rick, Construction Supervisor replied 8 months ago

I'll respond as soon as I can when you get back.

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
Ok I'm back and I have a multimeter
Plumber: Rick, Construction Supervisor replied 8 months ago

Then set your meter to 200 volts AC scale (or similar) and unplug the fan connector leads at the control and probe the W & B terminals. Do ths after cycling the power off then on again and after the circ LED is lit. I'll be back in about an hour

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
Meter can be sen to 150 ACV or 250 ACV
Customer reply replied 8 months ago
Meter can be set to 150 ACV or 250 ACV
Plumber: Rick, Construction Supervisor replied 8 months ago

Either one will work.

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Plumber: Rick, Construction Supervisor replied 8 months ago

Do you have more questions?

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Plumber: Rick, Construction Supervisor replied 8 months ago

Are you still with me??

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
I already got help from somebody else after you signed off as I was trying to test the current to the fan motor
Plumber: Rick, Construction Supervisor replied 8 months ago

I never "signed off". I spent a considerable amout of time with you and provided all the info you needed to trouble shoot this. I'd appreciate a favorable rating.

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