Our Bearded Dragon hasn't defecated in about 4 weeks and is starting to go into Brumination. She hasn't eaten in about 2

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Customer: Our Bearded Dragon hasn't defecated in about 4 weeks and is starting to go into Brumination. She hasn't eaten in about 2 weeks. Our local pet expert told us to give her a warm bath and massage her belly to get her to defecate before we let her bruminate. We placed her in warm water and massaged for about 30 minutes with no results. While massaging her we did feel some rather hard lumps in her belly area. What should we do?

Mark
Alabama
Answered by Anna in 40 mins 12 years ago
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Hi Mark,

The hard lumps are probably impacted feces. Will you tell me what you feed her, what substrate you have on the floor, and what temepratures you have on the warm and cool sides of the cage?

Thank you for the additional information.

Anna
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Hi: The warm side of the cage is 85 degrees on top of the basking rock and the cool side is 68 degrees. She's on the rock right now though very lethargic and sleepy. We gave her the warm bath and 'massage' and then put her on the basking rock since that's where she usually does her 'business'.

 

The substrate is a calcium based commercial product for herpivores -- supposed to be safe to beardies.

 

Her belly feels generally soft but has a few firm, smallish feeling nodules down both sides of the belly. Don't know if that helps or not.

 

Mark

 

 

Thank you, XXXXX XXXXX definitely don't want her to brumate in this condition. I suspect you got your information on care from a pet store. Unfortunately, that information is usually wrong. You should be able to count on the people there, but you can't. The first problem is that the cage is way too cold. After a long enough time at these temperatures, lethargy and appetite loss will occur. The digestive system will not function properly. This isn't brumation. For an adult beardie, the basking area should be 100* to 110*F. Your cool side should be 80* - 85*F. Night temperatures can be allowed to drop into the 70*s.

The pet store sand substrate is not good. Despite the fact that it is highly recommended by pet stores, more often than not, it leads to impaction. I recommend that you switch to a solid substrate, such as reptile carpet or ceramic tile. If you’d like to see the results of using sand, you can take a look at the following site. The photos are graphic, so if such things bother you, you may not want to look.

http://www.beardeddragon.org/articles/impaction/?page=3 calci sand Link

A bath/massage may help your beardie pass some feces, but I'll give you an improved way to do it. Buy some Pedialyte (yes, the kind for human infants), and prepare a warm (100*F) bath consisting of 1/2 water and 1/2 Pedialyte. Soak your dragon for about 20 to 30 minutes total. After 10 minutes, with her still in the water, gently massage her underside from front to vent for an additional 10 minutes. Try to get her to swim - that often helps, too - but supervise closely.

After your beardie has been warm for several hours and has had a soak, see if she's interested in eating. If she is, give her one superworm that has been dipped in mineral oil. That can also help with constipation. If she doesn't want it, don't try to force feed.

If you take all of the above steps, but there's no improvement within a day or two, you'll need to see a reptile vet. This link will take you to a directory of vets:

Link

Once your beardie is in good health, she can be allowed to brumate.

I'm also going to send along a care sheet, courtesy of Joan, another of our experts. She has many years experience with raising beardies and doing rescue. If you have more questions, just let me know by clicking on REPLY. I hope your beardie will be fine.

Anna


Bearded Dragon Care Sheet

* Bearded dragons should be housed alone.

* Ages of bearded dragons follow these guidelines:

1. 0-3 months- baby
2. 3-12 months-juvenile
3. 12-18 months- sub adult
4. 18 months + -adult

* Bearded dragons live as much as 10-12 years if well cared for properly.
* Bearded dragons have a very good temperament as long as they are cared for and handled.
* When you bring your baby home, it may be quite stressful to him/her to get use to new home. May not eat well the first 2-3 days. They may not need to be handled the first 2-3 days if skittish and nervous.
* Never use sand or any other type of loose substrate: Loose substrates can cause impaction (not being able to go Poop) in all ages of bearded dragons- they lick their environment to explore .It is difficult to keep germ free and clean. Ceramic tile, newspaper, non adhesive shelf liner and reptile carpet is what is most recommended. Use paper towels for the little one and as they get bigger you can change to something else.
* Be sure you keep your beardies home as clean as you can. Clean up by spot cleaning when needed. Clean & sanitize entire tank every 10-14 days. A good cleaning solution is a 20% bleach solution. If you choose to use wood climbing branches etc, these should be soaked in the bleach solution and rinsed well. Then bake in 250 degree oven for 30 minutes.
* Need a climbing accessory: to bask and to warm up under basking heat light and lower branches or platforms to come down and cool off.
* A hide of some sort like a cave.
* A food dish and water dish.
* Plastic spray bottle
* Can use artificial plants when they get older- 3 months or so.
* Digital thermostat and/or temp gun
* Tank size: Minimal size tank for this age is 20 gallon long
* Minimal size for older beardie: 4 months of age: 40 gallon breeder is the minimal tank size for older dragon. Can divide a 40 gallon breeder for a smaller dragon. Must have two lights for your beardie.

1. A UVB light source-best is 10.0 Reptisun that runs the length of your tank. Your dragon must have this light to metabolize calcium. If not he will get metabolic bone disease, a serious condition. You can also take your beardie outside to bask in the sun for 15 minutes each day if your temps are 80 degrees or above outside. You can purchase cages or reptariums from your pet store. Never leave a beardie outside unattended.
2. A basking type light that puts out heat and warmth above basking spot. Your beardie must have warmth to digest food & thrive.

* Lights should be on for 12-14 hours each day. Follow the seasons and light timers are a great luxury if you can get them. 6 dollars at Lowe's. No lights or warmth needed at night unless your temperatures get below 62 degrees. If they do, there are ceramic heat emitters that put out no light, only heat. Use these at night if temperatures fall below 62 degrees.



* Temperatures have to be kept at the following ranges during the day:

Babies: Warm basking log: 110-125 degrees F
Cool side: 85-90
Adults: Warm basking spot: 110-115
Cool side: 80-85
Measure temperatures with a digital probe type thermometer or a temp gun-these are most accurate. Stick on thermometers unreliable.

* Feeding a Beardie: Beardies eat live prey consisting of crickets, roaches and/or silkworms. Never feed any size of mice to your beardie. Never feed mealworms. They also must be given greens/veggies everyday. The younger they are the more live prey they should have. As they grow older the live prey decreases and the veggies/greens should be the major part of diet. Never feed anything bigger, than the space between your beardie's eyes. This includes both live prey and pieces of veggies/greens,
* A chopper or food processor is a huge help when your beardie is small. Always offer greens and veggies: collard greens, turnip greens, mustard greens, cabbage, red cabbage, fresh green beans, yellow summer squash, butternut squash, sweet potato, cactus pad. Apricots, strawberries, apples, blueberries, raspberries, cantaloupe- fruits are treats only.
* What is live prey? The easiest and less expensive live prey is crickets when you have a young or first beardie. The other live preys you can feed are silkworms, and special types of roaches. You can learn to raise your own live prey. Treats can be waxworms, super worms, and tomato/goliath worms. You may find that ordering live prey from the internet is the way to go..... Never leave live prey or greens/veggies in tank overnight. . Crickets can bite your beardie when sleeping.
* Babies should get 80% live prey, and 20 % greens/veggies. But since the greens/veggies are a must when they are older, get them eating their greens/veggies very early. Give greens/veggies in small pieces everyday. You should eventually start decreasing your older dragon's protein intake when they are about a year to 15 months old. Their protein intake decreases to 20 % live prey and 80% veggies/greens.
* A baby can eat 50-75 crix a day. Never feed crix or veggies bigger than the space between your beardie's eyes. Use this guide when buying crix or chopping your greens/veggies.
* You must provide calcium dust without D3 and multivitamin dust for your beardie. You should dust the live prey with calcium one time a day, and vitamins 3 times a week. Just collect your live prey into baggie and add enough calcium and vitamin to dust them. Then pour a few at a time into your tank. Some people feed their beardie in a separate tank so that no crickets can hide. Or some take out "furniture" from tank and feed this way. As they get older, 4-5 months or so dust live prey with calcium 3 times a week.
* Feed the veggies/ greens 1st thing in morning after lights on for one hour at least. Then after 2-3 hours offer crix. Then freshen green/veggies. Then give more crix. Make sure after last crix feeding there is at least 1-2 hours of lights so that they can digest their food before night time.

*Beardies over the age of one year old during the winter months will go into a Brumation like most Reptiles and Herps. It is a form of Hibernation that is governed by the weather and time of year. The lights should be on a shorter period at this time. Fresh greens should be available during this period. Do not feed live prey during Brumation.

Water: Mist your little one with the spray bottle 3-4 times a day. You can also offer a small dish of water in your enclosure but be sure your dragon is not too small to drown in it. It is recommended that when your beardie is 2 months old you can bathe your baby in a small plastic container with warm water- not hot. It will help them to stay hydrated. As they get older you can move up to the bathroom sink and then to the bathtub. Very important for bath enclosure to be thoroughly cleaned and rinsed prior to bath time. Clean between dragons too if bathing more than one.


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