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03 murano, no spark, code p1564,

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03 murano , no spark, code p1564,
Submitted: 1 year ago.
Category: Nissan
Expert:  Dan replied 1 year ago.

Ok, check for power on the red wires on the coils and for continuity to ground on the black wires. Let me know!

Expert:  Dan replied 1 year ago.

A bad crank sensor could cause a no spark issue, I would start with that, check for voltage at the crank sensor. I do not believe your p1564 is related to the no start issue.

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Expert:  Dan replied 1 year ago.

You should see battery voltage on the red wire to the crank sensor

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Battery voltage at red wire good on cop, and black wire has ground, the grey with red stripe has nothing when cranking the engine
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Has power and ground at crank sensor, so change crank sensor
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Replaced crank sensor, still no spark
Expert:  Dan replied 1 year ago.

here is a wiring diagram for the coils, do you have injector pulse when cranking?

Expert:  Dan replied 1 year ago.

have you checked all those fuses and relays in the diagram? have you checked for voltage at the coils?

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Has voltage at coils on red wire, but not the grey and red, could the chip in the key gone bad and cause this issue? I have checked every fuse,
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
I didnt check the pulse but smell fuel when cranking
Expert:  Dan replied 1 year ago.

Usually if it is a security or key issue, the engine will not crank at all.

Expert:  Dan replied 1 year ago.

check the black wire on the coil for ground. probe the red wire and ground the test light to the black wire, does it light up?

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Could the ecm be bad?
Expert:  Dan replied 1 year ago.

Yes it could be, but you want to make sure the harness and all the grounds are good first.

Expert:  Dan replied 1 year ago.

Has the car been in an accident? any other work done on it?

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Ground and power is good, nothing on red and grey
Expert:  Dan replied 1 year ago.

the third wire is the triggering circuit, you need an oscilliscope to see the wave form, a test light or volt meter will not pick it up.

Expert:  Dan replied 1 year ago.

unless your multimeter can read hz frequency

Expert:  Dan replied 1 year ago.

if you already replaced the crank sensor, and all the coils are not getting the triggering signal then its the ecm. if it were just one or two I would say wiring harness.

Expert:  Dan replied 1 year ago.

You could also hook up scan tool and go into live data, verify in the scan tool you have an rpm signal.

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
if it doesnt have rpm signal its the ecu?
Expert:  Dan replied 1 year ago.

That will tell you if the crank sensor is sending a signal to the ecu.

Expert:  Dan replied 1 year ago.

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Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Have rpm signal when cranking, been advised to take the parts store cam sensors out and use only nissan ,
Expert:  Dan replied 1 year ago.

Yes those aftermarket cam sensors are not the best.

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Replaced them with Nissan cam sensors $260dollars, same no spark
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Showing -7 on ign timing
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
While cranking
Expert:  Dan replied 1 year ago.

Sorry to hear that. You really need a scope to check to see if the ecm has a triggering signal to the coils.

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Got it to crank! Running only on the rear bank, unplugged the front cam sensor fired right up, think it jumped time on tje front bank! You agree?
Expert:  Dan replied 1 year ago.

If your cam and crank sensors are out of correlation, the engine will not start.

By unplugging the sensor the computer resorts to base timing values.

I would probably do a compression test on the motor. If it jumped time it may have bent valves.