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How much is an authentic Jacobus Stainer (1693) violin worth

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How much is an authentic Jacobus Stainer (1693) violin worth with the original case and bow? N ABFAM PROPE OENIPONTUM
Submitted: 6 years ago.
Category: Musical Instrument Appraisal
Expert:  twinb1201 replied 6 years ago.
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An authentic Jacob Stainer violin would not carry the date 1693. Stainer died in 1683.

Would you like to tell me a little about your violin, so I can value it for you?
Customer: replied 6 years ago.
My fiancee is from Germany. Said his son took the business over. The violin was given to him by his grandfther...passed down from generation to generation.
Expert:  twinb1201 replied 6 years ago.
Thanks for the additional information.

Stainer is considered to be the best Austrian luthier. There is no evidence that he had a son who took over his business.

Your violin is most likely a German copy of a Stainer, made in Markneukirchen, where many factories made good student violins, around 1900. It is a very common practice to put "tribute" labels in violins, and they don't reliably indicate the maker.

If it is in excellent condition, your violin has a current retail (replacement) value of approximately $600 - $1,000.

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Customer: replied 6 years ago.
I looked at the Smithsonian Institute's website. Since the violin was made in 1693, it might have been made by Marcus Stainer - some literature says he was sometimes erroneously labeled as Jacobus' brother - perhaps his son... He was said to be a monk and died in 1693. He made a few instruments under Jacobus. Would this change the valuation at all?
Expert:  twinb1201 replied 6 years ago.
No - the label is not genuine. The violin was not made in 1693. This is a common label, and it is not genuine. I'm sorry.
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