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I have a polaris trail boss 330 it turns over fine has spark

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geting gas woulnt start with...
i have a polaris trail boss 330 it turns over fine has spark geting gas woulnt start with key but will with pull rope
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Does she crank rapidly when the trying to start her?

Sorry to have to ask what may seem like stupid questions, but it is obviously difficult diagnosing problems remotely, I cannot hear, see, touch or smell anything so I have only what a customer tells me to make a correct diagnosis.
Also I dont know how proficient a customer is or what they may have done already. So I need to ask stuff which may seem obvious or unrelated

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
never has started with the starter but always has with the pull rope turns over fine new piston and rings board over .50 gets spark gas everything it needs to start with starter but dont but will with pull rope the bike has alwas been like this
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
new batery cleaned all contacts
Motorcycle Mechanic: Bike-Doc, Motorcycle Mechanic replied 2 years ago

'always' do you mean from new?

Does she crank rapidly when the trying to start her?

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
bought it used it crank good not like timeing chain broke but yea fast sounds normal
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
cranks like my other trail boss
Motorcycle Mechanic: Bike-Doc, Motorcycle Mechanic replied 2 years ago

OK

As she cranks fast enough it points to low compression but new piston, rings & a rebore should have sorted that

Have you checked & adjusted the valve clearances?

Have you done a compression test?

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
checked valves compression is 110 was 30 before
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
runs fine when pull started
Motorcycle Mechanic: Bike-Doc, Motorcycle Mechanic replied 2 years ago

Congrats with compression ! standard is 79 - 90psi

Does she start on the button when warm?

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Motorcycle Mechanic: Bike-Doc, Motorcycle Mechanic replied 2 years ago

Have you checked for a spark while actually cranking (to eliminate rogue grounding of ignition) ?

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
no will not start unless pulled and its a old compression tester probably not totally rite
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
good spark
Motorcycle Mechanic: Bike-Doc, Motorcycle Mechanic replied 2 years ago

Purely for diagnostics :- Try spraying starter fluid into the airbox with the choke OFF & throttle open a crack. Does she fire up ?

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
just tryed it and no start
Motorcycle Mechanic: Bike-Doc, Motorcycle Mechanic replied 2 years ago

Did she not even cough or splutter?

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
just cranks it dont make cence
Motorcycle Mechanic: Bike-Doc, Motorcycle Mechanic replied 2 years ago

That suggests that there isnt a spark when cranking, are you sure that there is a GOOD spark while cranking & its not being grounded by the switch

Another way to check would be jump the solenoid poles, this will eliminate any starter lock-out

Can you try pls?

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
positive it has spark when cranking it with the key and already tryed jumping the solenoid a couple times
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
think there is a possibility of something with fuel pump
Motorcycle Mechanic: Bike-Doc, Motorcycle Mechanic replied 2 years ago

This seems to be a fairly common problem looking online

Isnt she carburrated ?

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
i just crossed the plug for the key switch like a diagram showed to check it and nothing
Motorcycle Mechanic: Bike-Doc, Motorcycle Mechanic replied 2 years ago

If she has a carb then the fuel pump is not the problem

Have you tried applying power straight to the starter motor, if still no joy then we have eliminated everything except the starter motor & clutch

All that is left is to to strip & clean the starter motor & replace brushes

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
well i will pull it in the morning and clean it n check it out but it turns over the same as my other trail boss. im at a loss something has to work i have a bad shoulder and with the compression that it has its to much on me now to pull start
Motorcycle Mechanic: Bike-Doc, Motorcycle Mechanic replied 2 years ago

I can sympathise with your shoulder problem

I broke the AC joint in my left shoulder 11 years ago & various operations have failed to fix it properly. It is 1 of the reasons that I sit at a computer more than contort my body continuously

Ive just had a good idea, turn the idle screw until you get the lowest possible tickover, then press the start button but dont touch the throttle at all, let me know what happens pls

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Motorcycle Mechanic: Bike-Doc, Motorcycle Mechanic replied 2 years ago

Remember that the plug is liable to be wet after all this cranking! Keep it dry & clean

I keep finding more Trail Boss's of around that year with the same problem online, but no definitive answers yet!

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