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2009 Volvo VNL 630, Cummins...
2009 Volvo VNL 630, Cummins ISX. Have an issue with erratic power. Just driving along the power at times will drop 1 volt for no apparent reason. The diagnostic for the engine has a fault for erratic power. At times when the brakes are pressed or turn signal is activated or when the high beams are activated the dash lights will flash for a nano second. Today pulled up the fuel pump, cut the truck off then it would not start. I tried a few times with nothing from the starter. The dash check was fine. Volts was at 12.4 per the guage. I left the turn on and started the truck from the solenoid. It starts just fine now. Do these trucks have some type of power supply unit that controls and distributes power?
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Technician: Jeremy, Certified Truck/Bus Technician replied 1 year ago
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The voltage control goes through the cluster. These trucks have a bad issue of building corrosion on the plugs in the back of the cluster. I would pull those plugs and clean them with electrical contact cleaner (you can buy the can for $6.99 at any auto parts store) and let them dry for about 5 minutes, then plug them back in. See what it does after. If the issue continues, have the cluster tested with the PTT program. If these clusters lose power, they will keep the truck from starting. The starter signal comes from the Vehicle Control Module and if it can't see the cluster, it will not start the truck.

I believe the 2 issues you have are related to the one issue in the cluster. Your starting and your voltage are both affected by the cluster. Otherwise, there are no other modules in place.

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Customer reply replied 1 year ago
How do I get to the "cluster". I have now idea where it is and how to get to it.
Technician: Jeremy, Certified Truck/Bus Technician replied 1 year ago

The cluster is your instrument panel with the speedometer and the tachometer.

You have screws on the front of the dash and you remove them, pull the cluster forward, and the plugs are right there on the back.

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Customer reply replied 1 year ago
Jeremy, your suggestion worked well for one day. I cleaned the back of the display on Saturday. On Monday I drove about 300 miles and the truck performed perfectly. On Tuesday morning, before I started it I noticed when I opened the door the low voltage alarm sounded and the problems came back. On Wednesday morning the problem got worse. When I used my turn signal I actually low power completely. My trailer marker lights went out and would not come back on. I turned around and went back to my yard and tried to diagnose the problem. After about an hour or so, the marker lights just came back on without any apparent help from my. The one problem is the voltage. At the alternator and battery, with everything on, I'm getting about 14 volts. On the display, it will be approx 12 or so. On Tuesday the voltage was erratic, it would drive down to below 10 on the display for a few seconds and then stabilize at 12.5 or so while driving it. Any other suggestions?
Technician: Jeremy, Certified Truck/Bus Technician replied 1 year ago

Check the LVD. It should be in the battery box. Follow the power cables to the relay box in there. Jump the positive cables together bypassing that box and see what it does. If it stabilizes, the LVD is bad.

LVD id is the Low Voltage Disconnect.

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Customer reply replied 1 year ago
Thanks, ***** ***** do you have a picture of the lvd?
Technician: Jeremy, Certified Truck/Bus Technician replied 1 year ago

I went through all that I have to find a picture of it and I can't locate one. The manuals don't have one at all.

It is a black square box. The red cable goes right to is. Sometimes they are mounted on the driver side behind the batteries. Other times they are in the box itself. Volvo does move them on their trucks.

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Customer reply replied 1 year ago
Hi. Still trying to resolve this issue. Had the truck in the shop for 10 days and they said the cluster was bad. Replaced it, got it reprogrammed and the same issues are still present.Your last suggestion was the low voltage disconnect. The little box on top of the batteries is not connected to a battery. It is a small box that has a battery cable going in and coming out of it with a fuse.Jeremy, I get an fault code sometimes when I'm starting the truck. Check out the attached pictures. I got these on Friday when the trailer wasn't connected to the truck.Jeffrey
Technician: Jeremy, Certified Truck/Bus Technician replied 1 year ago

I'm opting out of this question.

This has gone on for 16 days now and the new information doesn't even coincide with the original complaint. The new question is involving the lighting module where teh original complaint was about a voltage issue. These 2 issues are not related and I feel like this is getting dragged out with no guarantee of payment for the asistance I have already given.

I haven't received any form of payment on this question as it is AND based on the last 3 experts that have assisted you, your history doesn't show a positive note that I will get payment on this one.

I am electing to opt out of this and moving on.

Good luck on your repairs.

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