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weve got a 3406b here...
weve got a 3406b here, serial #3zj2222, the customer brought it in for new injectors, so we put a set in from cat, the truck idles fine and runs fine at wot, but between about 1200 and 2000 rpm it misses, pings and blows a bunch of white smoke, once you get past that rpm range it clears out and pulls hard. any ideas?
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Technician: Cat Man, Cat Engine Expert replied 2 years ago
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Thanks for asking your question. I can help you with this.

Was it does not this before replacing the injectors?

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
it ran about the same
Technician: Cat Man, Cat Engine Expert replied 2 years ago

Thanks for the information.

There are two things I have seen cause this.

The first is the flyweights in the timing advance are hanging.

Second is the flyweights in the fuel system governor are hanging.

When this happens, the engine will run like this. To confirm the timing advance and the governor would need to be removed and inspected. If they are worn, it will be easy to see.

Please reply back if you need more help or have more questions. I am happy to assist.

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
does the injector pump have to come off, or where do I look next?
Technician: Cat Man, Cat Engine Expert replied 2 years ago

No the pump does not have to come off. Both the timing advance on the front can come off as well as the rear governor assembly. If on is worn, both most likely need rebuilt.

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
should I take that front cover off and take a peek?
Technician: Cat Man, Cat Engine Expert replied 2 years ago

Yes you can take the timing advance cover off. If you have a C pointed advance you can see flyweights. If you have a true B the advance will need to be disassembled.

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
what am I looking for when I get in there?
Technician: Cat Man, Cat Engine Expert replied 2 years ago

If the flyweights are worn. The contacts points of the flyweight will have worn a groove or hole in the race it rides on. If there is a groove or race, it will hang

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
ok I got the cover off, I pried the weights forward with a screwdriver, should that assembly move freely? it seems to bind up a little bit. then I started it up and watched, just as soon as the weights move forward the engine runs fine
Technician: Cat Man, Cat Engine Expert replied 2 years ago

Thanks for the information.

No it will not move freely. You may need to remove and disassemble to see the wear.

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
at what rpm should that start moving forward?
Technician: Cat Man, Cat Engine Expert replied 2 years ago

Normally between 1000 and 1600.

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
it doesn't move forward till about 1800 rpm
Technician: Cat Man, Cat Engine Expert replied 2 years ago

Thanks for the information. That sounds like the advance is slipping. When this happens, the carrier assembly in the advance needs to be replaced. When they go bad. They slip.

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Technician: Cat Man, Cat Engine Expert replied 2 years ago

Hey. I just wanted to see how things were going. Please let me know if you need more help. I am happy to assist. If my information was helpful, please leave a good or higher rating so that I receive credit. Thanks.

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