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2009 c15 powering a drill rig. Shut down during normal operations.

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Code is j1939 engine failure...
2009 c15 powering a drill rig. Shut down during normal operations. Code is j1939 engine failure. Engine turns over ,wil not start
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Technician: Cat Man, Cat Engine Expert replied 8 years ago
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Hi Joe. Thanks for asking your question and requesting me. I will try and help you out.

 

here are two things I have seen cause a C15 to shut down like this and have a J1939 code and not restart.

 

The first is the engine ECM is not receiving correct power and ground. When this happens the ECM will not power up and the engine will not start.

 

Second is a failed engine ECM. I know you have already checked the fuses so I would check power and ground at the engine ECM first. You should have power on pins 52,53 and 70 and ground on pins 65-67. If you have power to these, I would next suspect the ECM.

 

To confirm the ECM has failed, a service tool like Cat ET software is needed to try and read the ECM.

 

Please reply back if you need more help or have more questions. I am happy to assist.

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Customer reply replied 8 years ago
We have no power in 52..53..70. All grounds 65-67 are good
Technician: Cat Man, Cat Engine Expert replied 8 years ago
Thanks for the update Joe.

I suspected you were going to find no power to the ECM. ECM failures are not as common a loss of power to the ECM.

There is most likely a switch, fuse or poor connection somewhere that is not allowing power to the ECM.

Let me know if you need more help or have more questions. I am happy to assist.
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Customer reply replied 8 years ago
Could it be cab modules in the peterbilt?
Technician: Cat Man, Cat Engine Expert replied 8 years ago
Yes Joe that is possible if that is where the ECM is getting its power from.

Let me know if you need more help.
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Customer reply replied 8 years ago
This machine has two switches that activate the pto cooling fans and the throttle to the drillers console. They are on the dash in the peterbilt. We have had trouble with these before. Would this still cause the j1939 code to show? Peterbilt will not supply the origin of power to the ECM ....any thoughts?
Technician: Cat Man, Cat Engine Expert replied 8 years ago

Thanks for the information Joe.

 

Yes I believe it would cause the J1939 code to show. If the ECM does have power, the J1939 will come up.

 

I would suspect these switches have something to do with supplying power to the ECM. I hate Peterbilt is not helping you . I hate when they do that. You will most likely have to try and trace the wires yourself.

 

Let me know if you need more help.

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Technician: Cat Man, Cat Engine Expert replied 8 years ago

Hey Joe. I just wanted to see how things were going. Please let me know if you need more help or have more questions. I am happy to assist.

 

If my information was helpful, please leave a good or higher rating. Thanks.

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