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IT WILL NOT CRANK OR START HAS NO SPARK NOTHING HAPPENS WHEN…

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IT WILL NOT CRANK...

IT WILL NOT CRANK OR START HAS NO SPARK NOTHING HAPPENS WHEN THE KEY IS TURNED IT DOESNT MAKE A SOUND BUT IF I JUMP THE STARTER ENGINE ROTATES

Mechanic's Assistant: Can you turn the steering wheel at all? And what about the key? Is it worn or damaged?

KEY JUST GOT PROGRAMMED NEW PCM NEW COILS

Mechanic's Assistant: What is the model/year of your Mazda?

2005 MAZDA TRIBUTE 3.0

Mechanic's Assistant: Are you fixing your Tribute yourself? What have you tried so far?

YES CAUSE I TOOK IT TO MAZDA THEY WHERE CHARGING TOO MUCH TO FIX IT SO I LET THEM DIAGNOSE IT AND IT WAS THE PCM SO I PURCHASED A NEW ONE PRE PROGRAMMED TOO MY VEHICLE WITH MY VIN # AND ALL SO ALL I HAD TO DO IS GET THE KEY PROGRAMMED FOR THE PATS SYSTEM BUT WHEN I TRY TO CRANK IT I GET NOTHING SO I PUT MY SCAN TOOL ON IT AND IT DOESNT HAVE ANY ERRORS

Mechanic's Assistant: Anything else you want the mechanic to know before I connect you?

JUST WANT TO KNOW WHATS GOING ON WITH IT

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Mazda Mechanic: david craig, ASE Certified Technician replied 7 months ago
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Mazda Mechanic: david craig, ASE Certified Technician replied 7 months ago

when you try to start it does the security/theft light go out?

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Mazda Mechanic: david craig, ASE Certified Technician replied 7 months ago

have you tried starting it in neutral?

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Customer reply replied 7 months ago
Can't right now
Mazda Mechanic: david craig, ASE Certified Technician replied 7 months ago

ok, well let me know when you can

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Customer reply replied 7 months ago
it doesn't do anything
Mazda Mechanic: david craig, ASE Certified Technician replied 7 months ago

can you shift out of park?

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Customer reply replied 7 months ago
Yup
Mazda Mechanic: david craig, ASE Certified Technician replied 7 months ago

sounds like a fuse

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Customer reply replied 7 months ago
Already did
Customer reply replied 7 months ago
All fuses are good I tested them with my test light
Mazda Mechanic: david craig, ASE Certified Technician replied 7 months ago

pull the starter relay and check for 12 volts in slot 30. the prongs should be numbered 30,87,86, 85

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Customer reply replied 7 months ago
Ok
Customer reply replied 7 months ago
No volts at 30
Mazda Mechanic: david craig, ASE Certified Technician replied 7 months ago

not good.

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Customer reply replied 7 months ago
No
Mazda Mechanic: david craig, ASE Certified Technician replied 7 months ago

you need to check for 12 volts at those fuses

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Customer reply replied 7 months ago
We got 12 volts to those two
Mazda Mechanic: david craig, ASE Certified Technician replied 7 months ago

ok then if you do not have 12 volts at 30 in the starter relay slot then you have a broken wire

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Customer reply replied 7 months ago
I gotta find that wire
Mazda Mechanic: david craig, ASE Certified Technician replied 7 months ago

did you make sure you were deep enough in the relay socket when you tested for voltage in slot 30?

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Customer reply replied 7 months ago
I did
Mazda Mechanic: david craig, ASE Certified Technician replied 7 months ago

ok, you need to start looking for the broken/damaged wire

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Customer reply replied 7 months ago
Ok will it stop it from firing
Mazda Mechanic: david craig, ASE Certified Technician replied 7 months ago

absolutely... thats your main power to the starter relay from the ignition switch

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Customer reply replied 7 months ago
K thanks
Mazda Mechanic: david craig, ASE Certified Technician replied 7 months ago

youre welcome. wish it was better news. please note customer satisfaction is my number one goal and leaving a 3 stars or more rating for me will allow us to continue this dialogue until you are completely satisfied.and your vehicle is fixed. you may ask as many questions as you'd like at no extra charges. thank you have a great day

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Customer reply replied 7 months ago
I will
Mazda Mechanic: david craig, ASE Certified Technician replied 7 months ago

thank you

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Customer reply replied 7 months ago
Thanks
Mazda Mechanic: david craig, ASE Certified Technician replied 7 months ago

you bet

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Customer reply replied 7 months ago
Still will not rotate and no spark
Mazda Mechanic: david craig, ASE Certified Technician replied 7 months ago

did you find the open wire?

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Customer reply replied 7 months ago
Installed another harness same problem have a b1213 code
Mazda Mechanic: david craig, ASE Certified Technician replied 7 months ago

you didn't have B1213 before , stand by

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Mazda Mechanic: david craig, ASE Certified Technician replied 7 months ago

B1213.....There is no trick here. They key/s need to be reprogrammed or the PATS receiver took a dump

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Mazda Mechanic: david craig, ASE Certified Technician replied 7 months ago

I will open this up to the others to chime in, please do not reply back or it will take the question off of the board.

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