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Speedometer doesn't work. Changed speed sensors and cluster.

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Speedometer doesn't work. Changed...

Speedometer doesn't work. Changed speed sensors and cluster. Scanner shows speed.

Mechanic's Assistant: Does the sensor have a wire-wrapped magnet? If so, have you checked it with an ohmmeter?

Yes and no. I tried 2 different sensors and 2 different brands. If the sensor wasn't working, wouldn't it not show speed at the PCM

Mechanic's Assistant: What is the model/year of your Kia?

2006 Kia Spectra EX

Mechanic's Assistant: Are you fixing your Spectra yourself? What have you tried so far?

Yes I am a shop. VSS both input and output. Cluster

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Kia Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 8 months ago
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Hi my name is ***** ***** I'll be more than happy to assist you, Please allow me a few minutes to review your information. Thank you.

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Kia Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 8 months ago

codes?

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
no
Kia Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 8 months ago

ok. please standby

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Kia Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 8 months ago

I would start by doing continuity tests of the wiring. starting from the cluster to the first connector.

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
my VSS output sensor does not not have the green/orange wire. It has 2 white and one white/yellow
. I just want to make sure we're on the same page because a lot of what ive researched has the G/O. and a different sensor. But Ive also found what Im working with too.
Kia Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 8 months ago

whats the VIN?

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
KNAFE121665301792 --- I dd check continuity on the g/o at the cluster and at M25 its good
Kia Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 8 months ago

ok, please standby

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Kia Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 8 months ago

PIN 25

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
My apologies. My output VSS wiring is 2 wiring is 2 whites going to TCM and yellow/orange to ER Junction box
Kia Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 8 months ago

sorry man but those wire colors are not anywhere on any diagram.

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Kia Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 8 months ago

is this what you have?

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
No I don't have any blue wires on the VSS. I did check from M25 to JO3 and have continuity
Kia Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 8 months ago

ok.

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
I have the other style sensors one in front which is input and rear output sensor both 3 wire
Customer reply replied 8 months ago
ill check the continuity from the yellow/orange to Je01?
Customer reply replied 8 months ago
JC01
Kia Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 8 months ago

I'm going to open this up to the others, I cant be using different wiring diagrams that don't match your vehicle.

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
I aso back tracked and found intermittent cont from m25 pin 14 to J03 pin 25
Customer reply replied 8 months ago
I may run new wire from J03 Pin 25 to M25 pin 12 eliminate a possible break?
Kia Mechanic: indy-tech, Technician replied 8 months ago
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Hi name is ***** ***** I am a Automotive expert here at Just Answer.
I Just noticed that your question had not received a reply and thought I would see if you still need help with this.
I'm sorry for the long delay and I hope I can still assist you with this question .
I had seen no one else has replyed and would like to know if I can till help you.
If you feel that I cannot help with this please let me know.
let me know by useing the reply tab so we can continue .
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Kia Mechanic: indy-tech, Technician replied 8 months ago
Do you have any warning lights on in the dash like check engine lights. Or the ABS lights when engine is running
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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
No lights at all. Just inop speedo and odo. I tried jumping from e/r junction to pin 12 to cluster at m25. Now car doesnt run . Must be fuel pump circuit on same? Im going to switch it back
Kia Mechanic: indy-tech, Technician replied 8 months ago
Did you switch back and does the car now start .
Check fuses you are jumping the gun as I see it ? From what you are reporting.
First you need to check All system for codes if P. B. C or U codes .
Greg
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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
I did not switch back yet. Thanks for getting back to me. Ill let you know as soon as I get it back running
Kia Mechanic: indy-tech, Technician replied 8 months ago
Ok
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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
OK I Repaired the wire that I had jumped. Car still does not run. yes I checked the fuses all good. No codes just originally inop speedo/odo.
Customer reply replied 8 months ago
Just rescanned and now i have po230 fuel pump circuit low. I checked continuity on wore i repaired. All good. Power on fp relay circuit
Kia Mechanic: indy-tech, Technician replied 8 months ago
Ok so all is now working just no speedometer.
Greg
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