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2004 VDP will not crank over. Battery is good. Did this a…

2004 VDP will not...

2004 VDP will not crank over. Battery is good. Did this a couple days ago, but then started the next day.

Mechanic's Assistant: Have you checked the fuel supply? And are all the spark plugs working?

Yes, the car runs great. Nothing happens when you hit the start position with the key. And a bunch of alarms display - Transmission Fault, DCS not available, park brake fault, ABS fault. Like we have an electrical gremlin.

Mechanic's Assistant: Are you fixing your Vdp yourself? What have you tried so far?

I tried a master reset, battery off, drained, reconnect. Thats it so far. Since it happened a few days ago then worked perfectly, i don't think its a starter.

Mechanic's Assistant: Anything else you want the mechanic to know before I connect you?

The security light does not blink when trying to start, and the car is in Park with the red P lit.

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Jaguar Mechanic: Richard, Jaguar Technician replied 5 years ago
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Can I have the last six of your VIN? Will the shifter release from park with the ignition ON foot on the brake when the engine will not start?
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Customer reply replied 5 years ago
Sorry for the delay, I'm at work today and we left the car in a parking lot. Yes, the car will shift out of park. VIN ends in G29432.
Customer reply replied 5 years ago
I tried starting in neutral also with the same result. If we can trace this to a simple procedure or likely component, I would fix it myself.
Jaguar Mechanic: Richard, Jaguar Technician replied 5 years ago
Sounds like we may have a problem with the vehicle high speed network. This can be difficult to diagnose without a Jag factory tool but we can perform some tests with a digital multimeter. I first recommend we double check the battery and cable connections as low voltage can be the cause. Also try disconnecting the negative battery terminal cable for about thirty minutes to see if the vehicle resets. Let me know.
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Customer reply replied 5 years ago
Checked the battery voltage and it was a little low, 12.08V. Jumped it from my truck and it started and ran perfectly with no warning lights or messages. Drove to a battery store, installed new battery and now it again won't start. Battery was disconnected for maybe 20 minutes while changing it. Same symptoms. Tried a jump without success. Seems it has to sit for close to a day, then it will work and work fine till turned off. I will try this again tomorrow along with a longer "reset" period.
Jaguar Mechanic: Richard, Jaguar Technician replied 5 years ago

Keep me posted with any updates.

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Customer reply replied 5 years ago
Sorry, busy day. Voltage is fine measured at battery. New charged battery, disconnected 2 hours, same symptoms, no crank even a day later.
Customer reply replied 5 years ago
My wife noted the drivers seat stopped moving for exit when the key was turned off shortly before this problem surfaced.
Customer reply replied 5 years ago
What can I do to further isolate the problem?
Jaguar Mechanic: Richard, Jaguar Technician replied 5 years ago
Is the vehicle currently not starting? Do you have a digital multimeter to perform some tests?
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Customer reply replied 5 years ago
Will not crank. I have a digital multimeter and battery is fully charged.
Jaguar Mechanic: Richard, Jaguar Technician replied 5 years ago
OK with the battery disconnected locate the diagnostic data link connector under the driver side dash. Place one of your meter leads to pin 6 and the other meter lead to pin 14. Set the meter to resistance and tell me what you read.
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Customer reply replied 5 years ago
Battery disconnected. 6-14 reads 60.3 ohm.
Jaguar Mechanic: Richard, Jaguar Technician replied 5 years ago
OK tha. That is actually a good reading. Reconnect the battery and turn the ignition ON. Look at the red security light at the top of the dash and tell me what it does.
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Customer reply replied 5 years ago
Came on with key. Steady maybe 2 seconds then off.
Jaguar Mechanic: Richard, Jaguar Technician replied 5 years ago
the shifter is releasing from park and illuminating all the gears correct.
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Customer reply replied 5 years ago
Correct. Can move shifter and indicator lights on.
Jaguar Mechanic: Richard, Jaguar Technician replied 5 years ago
Go to fuse #19 (25 amp) for the starter motor. Jump power there momentarily to see if the starter engages. I wonder if the internal relay in the engine fuse box is faulty.
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Customer reply replied 5 years ago
That kicks the starter. But I dropped the fuse. Time to go digging.
Customer reply replied 5 years ago
Fuse is back in. Thank you Jaguar for having spares.
Customer reply replied 5 years ago
What is the next step?
Customer reply replied 5 years ago
Are you all closed on weekends? Salvage yards here close in a couple hours.
Customer reply replied 5 years ago
Is the engine fuse box likely problem?
Jaguar Mechanic: Richard, Jaguar Technician replied 5 years ago
Sorry for the delay. Yes that is a possibility. I will look through the diagram when I get back into shop as we can do some tests with a digital multimeter.
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Customer reply replied 5 years ago
When I didn't hear back, I changed out the engine fuse box (patience is not one of my strengths). The car starts and runs fine now. Thank you for your expert help.
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