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I have a three...

I have a three zone Honeywell system. Is there someone that can help me troubleshoot?

Contractor's Assistant: I'll do all I can to help. How long have you been dealing with this?

Since we moved in about six months ago.

Contractor's Assistant: Do you plan on doing the work yourself?

Don’t know. Depending on what’s involved.

Submitted: 4 months ago.Category: HVAC
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HVAC Technician: Phil, Mechanical Engineer replied 4 months ago
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Hello, tell me please what seems to be malfunctioning

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Take a close up, exceedingly well focused photo of the wiring diagram glued inside the furnace/air handler door, amd the zone control panel with its cover removed that shows all of the thermostat wire connections....and I will mark those up with trouble shooting instructions. Use the 'add files' link next to your send button to get the photo(s) to me.

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Customer reply replied 4 months ago
I moved in about six months ago and it hasn’t been functioning correctly. Looks like whom ever did the repairs last had no idea what they were doing. The dampers were not wired correctly. One of the dampers needed to have a common wire added because it was power close and open. I rewired it last night and it generally appears to be working. All the zones now open when called upon and stay closed otherwise. I do have two remaining issues:1. The zone max temp sensor was previously disconnected. What does it do? Do I need to replace it? Am I losing efficiency or anything without it?
2. There is a discharge damper on a vertical run that ties back to the intake side. It is worn out and hangs open all the time. Where do I find a 14” replacement? How do I get the right resistance on it when I purchase? Maybe I can tighten the old one?
HVAC Technician: Phil, Mechanical Engineer replied 4 months ago

Hello again, click here for zone max sensor function

1. It maintains zone temperatures to viable ranges if the wireless thermostat connections fail.

2. that 14" damper is a 'bypass damper' it is designed to open if too many zones close, it insures adequate air flow past the cooling coil and furnace in those instances.... it should be closed when at least 2 zones are open.... that damper can be controlled in various ways, I cannot tell from here if its wired to limit the static pressure in the supply air duct to 1" water column or by some other means... follow its wiring to the control that operated it, let me know what you find.

Regarding replacement. tell me if its damper motor works or not, and if the shaft between the damper and damper motor is attached or not, and the brand and model number on the damper motor. You can generally order this from http://www.shortyshvac.com

.Regarding 'resistance' thats not an applicable term in that application , it is the discharge static pressure that controls that damper.

click here please

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Customer reply replied 4 months ago
for the temp sensor, is there any downside to not running one? There is only one and it’s on the box that the different zones split off from.For the bypass damper, it is passive (not electronic). I looked up some examples online. I think it’s actually just installed wrong. It has a counter weight that puts tension on the damper. It looks like it’s setup right now for a horizontal installation.
HVAC Technician: Phil, Mechanical Engineer replied 4 months ago

If your thermostats are not wireless, you do not need to connect the zone max sensor, if your thermostats are wireless and you do not connect the zone max sensor, then if the thermostat fails, the house will cool below your set point. One zone max is sufficient.

The counter weight is a mechanism that opens the damper if the discharge static pressure gets too high, generally in the 0.7 to 1" water column range... thats a good set up, the damper however should be closed when all zones are operating... if not adjust the weight on the zone damper arm until the damper closes.

If you do not do that, and the damper is always open you will not get sufficient air volume to the open zones when all 3 zones are calling for heat or cooling.

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