I recently purchased a quarter horse for my ten year old daughter, who has been riding since the age of three. The

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Customer: I recently purchased a quarter horse for my ten year old daughter, who has been riding since the age of three. The intent was to get a horse she could move up on and grow with as she gets older and has expressed desire to compete in western competitions. Frost is a seven year old quarter horse who previously lived out west and was a cattle horse. She was sold at auction this October to a horse broker in our area. When we went to look at her, we noticed an old barbed wire injury to her back leg, but the broker (who also produced videos) had her out trail riding on rocky terrain, working in the round pen, and arena and the horse supposedly showed no signs of favoring that leg. We brought her home and after a seven hour trailer ride, WTC for approx. an hour... she was perfectly fine. Last week we had her shoes removed as she will no longer be living in a rocky area and the farrier didn't see any reason she needed them. Our trainer worked her pretty good that afternoon and she immediately went lame on that back leg with the old injury. The vet came out and looked at the leg the next day and said basically it is what it is. There is a lot of scar tissue build up on the back leg and she won't get worse, but won't get better either. Within two days, she was back to normal, so we waited a week and did some light riding, and trotting on her and she was fine. Now, today, we worked her again and she went lame in the same leg. I'm having the vet come out to do x-rays this week to see if we can get to the bottom of the issue, but I'm wondering if there is anything I can do to strengthen her leg or natural supplements that may improve tissue damage. I don't know if I mentioned that this is the sweetest, most bombproof horse I have ever seen. She's smart, willing and very talented. I hate to see her not able to be the show horse she could have been, but if I can just have a solid trail horse that can only walk...I'm okay with that too. Our trainer has suggested that if the issue continues we donate her to an equine therapy program for handicapped children since her personality is so laid back and sweet, but I must say I'm already quite attached!
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horsevets :

Hi my name isXXXXX and I will try to help you with your question today. In instances like this, it is always important to rule out issues other than the obvious. It is very easy to get pulled in one direction or another because of scars and swellings. If it were me that was to see your mare, I would want to come out on a day that she is lame so that I could perform a proper lameness exam with diagnostic nerve blocks to rule out something other than the obvious. It would be all too easy to come out and shoot radiographs of the old injury only to have missed another issue all together.

horsevets :

Even though the terrain is different, depending on the injury your mare may benefit from a certain type of shoe for added support. But I certainly cannot say for sure since I can't evaluate the injury.

<span class="JA_chatAuthorName"Customer:

The vet did come out the morning after the initial lameness ocurred, but he said that the lameness was barely noticeable by the morning.

<span class="JA_chatAuthorName"Customer:

What kind of shoe? The shoes she had were the typical shoes I've seen other horses wear, but only on her front hooves.

horsevets :

Without seeing the injury and the exact location it is difficult for me to say, but as an example I have had several horses with traumatic injuries to the back of the pastern or fetlock leaving them with limited range of motion and flexion of that limb and they benefited from an egg bar shoe on that foot to provide more support.

<span class="JA_chatAuthorName"Customer:

Is it possible for me to photograph the injury and upload pictures at a later date so that you can visualize the injury? Is an egg bar shoe something I should suggest to the farrier or vet? The injury is on the front of her back leg more in the area of the cannon bone and then the smaller one just above the hoof.

horsevets :

You can certainly upload a picture for me to see, that would make it easier for me to give you a more accurate suggestion. But, if the injury is on the front of the cannon bone and does not involve the back of the leg in any way, i would definitely want to reevaluate your mare when she is obviously lame. In my experience, injuries to the front of the leg often do not cause lasting lameness. Again without evaluating your mare personally, I cannot say for certain.

horsevets :

If the injury is to the front of the leg, an egg bar shoe will most likely be of no help to you at all.

<span class="JA_chatAuthorName"Customer:

Okay...so best case scenario...get the vet out at the height of a lameness episode to do nerve blocks and rule out other issues before xraying? I will also get a picture today and upload it so you can better see the extent of damage in the area. Thank you.

horsevets :

That is the best way to approach it in my opinion so that you aren't doing a back and forth calling your vet out on multiple occasions because the issue continues to occur.

horsevets :

It is possible that the lameness is totally unrelated to the old issue, and is an easy fix. Unfortunately, with her history you have no way of knowing if she was given pain meds to look the way she did in the videos.

<span class="JA_chatAuthorName"Customer:

Exactly and I know we paid too much for a horse that may end up being a pasture ornament, but on the same token, I know buying a horse can be risky business. I've just been very lucky in the past! I will do as you suggest and try to get the vet out when she is having an issue, so that maybe we can get to the bottom of the issue. She really is a fantastic horse and I hope we can remedy the problem.

horsevets :

I wish you the best in this situation, and I hope that everything turns out well. If you would still like to upload a picture I will be happy to give you my opinion. Also if you have any other questions with this case please let me know I will be happy to help in any way that I can.

horsevets :

I'm sorry to be rude, but I have to log off so that I can get to an appointment I am running a little late for.

horsevets :

thanks,

horsevets :

Dr. Campbell

Hi Victoria, I'm just following up on our conversation about Frost. How is everything going? horsevets
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Thank you for following up. Frost was still slightly lame in that back leg as of yesterday. The vet is coming out on Thursday to do nerve blocks, xray, ultrasounds or whatever we need to do to get to the root of the problem. He did say he's afraid the injury to the coffin bone area may be what's causing her issues. I wasn't able to get a picture since all of the girls were playing "you can't catch me" yesterday and the site is not letting me upload a video. I've gone back and viewed the video of Frost prior to us getting her and now I do believe she was favoring that back leg even before we bought her. If you get a chance to view the video and can tell whether she looks stiff (it's the back leg with the white stocking), I would appreciate your opinion.

The video can be viewed at www.fairplayhorse.com/Misc/recentlysold11.htm

If you scroll down, Powder Frost Doll is the 8th horse down and her western video is the one I'm referring to.

Once again, thanks for your time!

Thank you for the additional information. I looked at the video and I would say she definitely looks off, but it is difficult to really give you a good idea of where. It is best to evaluate most lamenesses at the trot without a rider on the horse. Frost is at a trot for a total of maybe fifteen steps in the whole video and it is usually on the way into a canter or dropping out of one. This makes it even more difficult to pinpoint. I am glad you are having your veterinarian out to reevaluate her. Please let me know what he or she finds, I would be very interested to know. Sorry that I can't be more helpful with that video. Please let me know if I can be of any more help. thanks, Dr. Campbell
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