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I have a 2012 Honda civic lx.recently the battery has been

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draining for some unknown reason...
I have a 2012 Honda civic lx.recently the battery has been draining for some unknown reason. Replaced alternator twice. Took to dealer and everything checked OK. Told the after market remote was possibly culptleit so had it removed. Charged battery completely and now not a week later, battery is dead again. Nothing being left on or plugged in.
Everything checks good on tests. No engine codes.
What could be causing battery to drain and car not wanting to start?
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Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago
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hello welcome to just answer I am master tech and will be able to assist you

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Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

is their any other aftermarket stuff installed on the car like radio amps ?

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
No
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Only other add on was a set of horns to replace factory horns.
These are using oridiginal horn wiring
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
When checked at Autozone was told alternator was bad so replaced it. Rechecked after replacing and told voltage regulator was bad on new alternator son replaced a second time. Car ran a week then wouldn't start because battery was dead.
Recharged battery carvran a couple days. Took to victory Honda in Muncie and had complete electrical check fine. Came back nothing wrong. They saw sticker for rote start system and said that was culprit so had them remove it. A week later car still doing same thing.
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Don't want to have to keep putting on charger as it will eventually ruin battery
Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

ok a parasitic draw test needs to be done.

do you have a volt/ohm meter?

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Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

this remote starter is this aftermarket also ?

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Don't have meter but vam go to Autozone
Remote starter was after market but it is completely out of car. Had victory Honda remove complete system
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Can go to Autozone and have them hook to their meter
Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

no this is not the same.

you have to do this with a volt meter.

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
I can buy one but never used before so would be lost
Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

ok normally the meters will come with a user manual and show you how to do a simple draw test.

but it involves disconnecting the battery cable and placing the meter leads inline to get the reading.

I can look up a video on you tube for you to show you how simple it is.

once this is hooked up then you simply start removing one fuse at a time in the fuse box to see which circuit is causing this then see what has been installed.

also if you have anything plugged into the accessory port like a phone charger or something like that it will draw.

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Nothing is left plugged in and lights are all turned off as well as radio
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Can you send me link to the videa you mention and I will go buy a voltage meter
Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

yes give me a minute to look this video up.

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Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

ok I found a really good one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ES-rjFfuxq4

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Will any volt/ohm meter work or do I need a special kind?
Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

as long as it will do MA

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Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

sears will have a good basic volt meter.

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Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

the middle or the one on the right will be best suited.

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
OK I'll get the middle as its the best for the price
Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

ok

then follow the video i sent and you will arrive at the source of your draw

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Will watch video and see what to do then perform checks and advise on findings
Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

ok keep me posted also make sure to close the hood latch you will need to push the latch down just like he did in the video on the doors.

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Ok
Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

I will wait for your results.

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Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

ok and you let the system go to sleep and any door thats open you have the latched closed.

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Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

ok if you open the door using the handle then close and open it again and latch the latch and show me the display.

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Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

ok thats a small amount not a issue their

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Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

ok now set your watch and see when it drops down .

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Door closed
Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

according to this reading I don't see a large draw to account for the dead battery

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Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

now how long is this sitting before it goes dead ?

ok that second reading is normal until the system goes to sleep in like 15 minutes

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Interior light still on with door open and latch closed
Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

turn it off

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Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

their is a door switch for the light covered with a rubber boot

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Car will run a week and before week is over she will go to start it and it won't start.
That's with her driving every day and next morning car won't start
Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

ok so something in the system is awake and if you look at the fuse box cover you removed see the relay for the a/c clutch it will have a snow flake on the cover it's a black relay remove it and and leave it out and see if this continues.

we have had lots of issues with these relays but personally have not seen them yet on the 12 yet.

I have a 12 civic also and drive mine daily for work and no issues yet

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Found the relay but mine is light green according to the cover
Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

let me look at mine give me a minute

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Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

ok mine is black.

if you look at the cover it has a arrow on the cover noting the front. so the relay is closest to the fender

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
I had wrong one
Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

looks that way

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Here is new reading
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
0.52/0.51 back up to 0.56
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Back up to 0.75
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Relay is still out and meter went back to high numbers
Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

ok wait for it to go back to sleep all the doors are closed ? you can close them . make sure to open the door with the handle to release the latch

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
With relay back in meter is at 0.77-0.
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
0.79
Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

the system has to go to sleep

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Ok relay is out and all doors are closed
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Meter reads 0.72 to 0.73
Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

ok

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Down to 0.67 to 0.69
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Went back up to 0.73 0.74. 0.75 fluctuating there
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Should I try pulling fuses inside car to see if there's a change
Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

no

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Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

yes pull the fuse one at a time.

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Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

what ever you did the system is on now

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Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

the relay is still out correct.

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
relay is still out
Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

ok lets start pulling one fuse at a time and monitoring the draw

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Pulled each fuse and no change
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Still reads 0.72. 0.73
Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

ok check the ones in the engine bay

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Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

dome lite it off ? hood latch it closed position also

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Meter down to 0.4 0.4 . 0.48
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
0.45. To 0.48
Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

ok your in limits

it should come down more some systems are still awake. .50 m/a is the max you want to see

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Back to 0.70
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Door was ajar
Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

ok so every fuse was pulled one at a time and the meter never changed ?

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Right
Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

ok lets start over make sure the doors are all closed and the hood latch is in the closed position. its vrey hard to push down but this needs to be done

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Meter is gradually dropping back down again
Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

ok

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Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

lets see where this is at in 15 minutes ok

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Doors all closed and hood held closed with vice grips
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Meter reading 0.66 to 0.68
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
But gradually dropping
Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

vise grips ? the latch needs to be latched

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
It is in closed position and held down there
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Meter slowly dropping
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
0.64. 0.65
Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

ok not sure why you used the vise grips

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Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

if you push it down all the way it will lock and nothing will be needed to hold it

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Ok will try to get it locked down on its own
Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

ok

makes a difference on the micro switch

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Just got new relay should I install it
Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

did you find a problem with the relay of just preventative

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Just preventative
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Don't know how to test relay
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Just made sure hood latch is locked without vice grips.
Meter reading 0.51. 0.52
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Doors closed and dome light out
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Dropped down to 0.45
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Have not installed the new relay yet.
Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

ok it's a tad high normally we see around .30 so something is awake still. peek under the dash on the drivers side and see if you see any remains of that alarm still.

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
All the wires for the alarm and the control boxes were removed
Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

ok. all the doors are flush when closed ?

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Was not the alarm that was removed itbwas the after market remote starter
Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

also if the doors are still closed use the key to cycle the door lock manually .

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Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

ok use the key to cycle the lock and then manually lock it with the key not the fob and then monitor

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Just locked doors meter went up but dropping again
Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

yes it will do that since the system was woken up. let it go to sleep and see what you have in like 15 minutes or so.

have seen these take 20 minutes or so to finally go to sleep

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Oops sry bout that just cycled manually instead of with remote
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Reading 0.48 0.49 but looks as if it is dropping
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
First time I cycled with key numbers dropped to 0.12. 0.13
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Will give it time to settle then check numbers
Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

that is good their but lets see where it goes in 20 minutes.

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Ok will check in 20 and advise
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Going from 0.39 to 0.42
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Still have not replaced the relay I took out
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Dropped down to 0.3 to 0.35
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
0.32 to 0.35
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
It seems to be jumping between 0.32 to 0.40
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
What do you think ?
Do you think that ac relay was the problem since the meter is reading in the 0.30 range.
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Just checked battery 14 volts 43 % charge showed bad on tester so replaced battery.
Will put full charge on and have her drive normally. Should know if problem fixed in a couple days. Thanks for your help and advice.
Will let you know either way.
Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

sorry for the delay. was out of the house

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Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

yes it looks like the relay might be sticking at times and causing a larger then normal draw

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Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

I would replace the relay and then recheck in a day or two.

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Mechanic for Honda: MASTER TECH, Honda Technician replied 2 years ago

hello how is this holding up anymore draw issues ?

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