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I do not understand your question. Are you asking where the backhoe valve is located?
What is your machine's serial number?
I need a schematical breakdown of the rear hydraulic control system
*rear boom control system\
What are you trying to do? Rebuild?
purchased machine, all rear hydraulics on the machine were unhooked
have hydraulics on the machine, but in order to get boom to actuate, have to pull front bucket lever
If you must actuate a loader function to operate the backhoe controls, you have a resolver problem.
should there be a pilot pressure line sitting in the machine top left side of the valve assembly?
A signal line is connected to the pump from the loader valve and ties to the backhoe valve.
Can you give me a few minutes to find some information to help. I need your serial number to help me locate the correct documents.
can you send a schematic of the line locations for the rear valve and controls?
No document exists.
Only parts pictures or tech drawings
Parts pictures would work
Let me see what I can find and I will post it back to you.
Sorry it took so long but, I have a diagram that is what I think you were looking for.
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(2) Pilot lines from the joystick
(4) Supply line
(8) Pressure reducing valve
(9) Pump oil
(10) Joystick for the backhoe
(11) Joystick for the backhoe and stabilizers
(12) Hydraulic system lock
Oil from the pump enters the pressure reducing valve (8) through line (9). Oil from the pressure reducing valve flows to the accumulator (6) and the valve for the hydraulic system lock (12). When the machine is off or the switch for the pilot lock valve is engaged, the power is blocked to the solenoid and the valve is spring applied. In the lock position, the pilot lock valve blocks the pilot oil to the joysticks. In the unlock position, power is sent to the solenoid on the pilot lock valve. This allows oil to flow to the joysticks through line (4). Pilot lines (2) from the joysticks control the bank valves for the loader and the backhoe.
Accumulator (6) remains pressurized after the engine is turned off. This allows the operator to use the joysticks to lower the boom and the stick with the engine stopped.
Note: The pressure in the accumulator will only last for a short period of time. When the engine is off, the engine start switch must be in the ON position before the valve for the hydraulic system lock can be deactivated.
The solenoid for the valve for the hydraulic system lock is de-energized when the top of the switch is pressed. When the solenoid for the valve of the hydraulic system lock is de-energized, the pilot operated controls for the backhoe are deactivated and no movement of the machine can be made by using the pilot operated controls. The valve for the hydraulic system lock does not affect the operation of the stabilizers.
The solenoid for the valve of the hydraulic system lock is energized by pressing the bottom of the switch. When the solenoid for the valve of the hydraulic system lock is de-energized, the pilot operated controls for the backhoe are activated. Movement of the machine can be made by using the pilot operated controls.
Thank you so much. That helps a lot.
If you let know what you find I will be glad to help more. Have you tested resolver problems before?
I have not.
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Signal resolver network schematic for the machine
(1) Stick circuit
(2) Bucket circuit
(3) Boom circuit
(4) Orifice with Bypass
(5) Swing circuit and Auxiliary backhoe circuit (If Equipped)
(6) Left stabilizer circuit
(7) Right stabilizer circuit
(8) Extendable stick circuit
(9) Lift circuit
(10) Tilt circuit
(11) The auxiliary circuit for the loader
(12) Signal line from the steering circuit
(13) Resolver for the priority valve
(14) Line to the pump controller
(A) Primary resolver
(B) Secondary resolver
(C) Bank Valve for the Boom, Bucket and Stick
(D) Bank Valve for the Stabilizers, Swing, and Extendable Stick
(E) Bank Valve for the Loader
Note:The arrows that are shown reflect the direction of flow of the signal oil.
Each control valve in the implement hydraulic system is part of the signal resolver network. Each resolver compares two signal pressures. Control valves in backhoe control valve (C) have a single resolver (A) in each valve. The resolver is installed parallel to the control spool. The boom, the bucket and the stick have internal passages in the control spool which serve the same function as primary resolvers. Control valve section (D) and control valve section (E) in the implement hydraulic system has two resolvers, the primary resolver (A) and the secondary resolver (B). The priority valve has only one resolver. The resolver in the priority valve (13) is a secondary resolver with an orifice.
A resolver is a double check valve which compares two pressure signals. The higher pressure signal goes to the next resolver.
The primary resolver is installed parallel to the control spool. The ball check valve is built into the resolver. The secondary resolver is installed perpendicular to the primary resolver. The ball check valve is not contained in a housing. A plug holds the ball check valve in the valve body.
The primary resolver compares the pressure between the two work ports in each control valve section. This resolver compares the head end pressure to the rod end pressure of the same cylinder.
The network for the secondary signal resolver is arranged in a series. The network begins at the bank valves for the stick control on mechanical backhoe controls. The network begins at the lower function of the pilot control valve for pilot backhoe controls. The secondary resolvers for the loader control are connected to the resolver for the priority valve (13) .
The signal network starts out at the cover end of the backhoe control valve (C). The highest signal pressure from a backhoe control valve is sent to the stabilizer control valve (D) through the Orifice with Bypass (4) .
Signal pressure from the backhoe control valve (C) flows through the Orifice with Bypass (4) and signal pressure enters the stabilizer valve (D) at the left cover end. That signal pressure is then compared to any signal pressure in the stabilizer control valve (D). The highest resolved signal pressure is sent to the loader control valve (E). That signal pressure is then compared to any signal pressure in the loader control valve (E). The ball check valve in the priority valve then compares the highest resolved signal pressure from the loader valve (E) to any signal pressure from the hand metering unit. Finally, the highest signal pressure is sent to the pump compensator valve.
Now, the signal instructs the pump to vary the pump output in order to meet the highest load requirements. The compensator valve adds margin pressure to the load requirements. The pump will not change the pump pressure until the resolver network identifies a different highest resolved signal.
Note:The resolver network does not add the various loads together. Instead, the single highest resolved load plus the margin governs pump output pressure. The hydraulic system is supplied with 2100 ± 100 kPa (305 ± 15 psi) extra pressure. The extra pressure is supplied in order to handle the single largest load.
When the spool in a stabilizer or the loader control valve is shifted, the primary resolver valve compares the pressure between the two work ports in the control valve section. The resolver compares the head end pressure of the cylinder to the rod end pressure of the same cylinder.
Secondary resolver check valve (B) in each valve section works similarly. The resolver compares the pressure signals between two control valves. Secondary resolver check valve (B) compares the highest primary pressure signal in the control valve to the highest resolved signal from the previous control valve. The highest resolved pressure is sent through the line to the next control valve.
I think that's all I need for now. Thanks again for your help!
Here is the troubleshooting guide to cover testing resolvers
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