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Power at relay, but no power at inertia switch or any other fuel related component. And suggestions?
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Ford Mechanic: Ron, ASE Certified Technician replied 1 month ago
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Ford Mechanic: Ron, ASE Certified Technician replied 1 month ago

you have power out of Pin #30 at the fuel pump relay while cranking the engine?

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Customer reply replied 1 month ago
There is power while cranking and while the key is at the on position.
Ford Mechanic: Ron, ASE Certified Technician replied 1 month ago

Pin #30 is the power feed out of the relay to the inertia switch on the green/yellow wire. If you have power out of the relay then you should have it at the green/yellow wire at the inertia switch. Where are you loosing the power?

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Customer reply replied 1 month ago
I’m not sure. I had power at pin 30 and 86 with the relay out.
Ford Mechanic: Ron, ASE Certified Technician replied 1 month ago

The power pins with the relay out should be 85 and 87, with the relay removed there should be no power on pin 30.

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Ford Mechanic: Ron, ASE Certified Technician replied 1 month ago

Can you check these two pins to see if you have key on power to them both?

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Customer reply replied 1 month ago
When I checked them yesterday with the key on only 30 and 86.
Ford Mechanic: Ron, ASE Certified Technician replied 1 month ago

Those are the wrong pins for the fuel pump relay. See the link below for the correct pin locations in the connector with the relay removed. The power feed pins are pins 85 and 87. Please recheck these with the key on. Pin 86 is the relay ground and pin 30 is the power feed out to the inertia switch.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/dq8a1u3n8l3dl3j/RELAY%20loca%20Mar%2020.pdf?dl=0

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Customer reply replied 1 month ago
Ok I was wrong 85 and 87 have power with key on.
Ford Mechanic: Ron, ASE Certified Technician replied 1 month ago

Okay do you get power at the inertia switch if you jump 87 to 30 with a jumper wire?

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Customer reply replied 1 month ago
No power at inertia switch. Now check charging system warning is on
Customer reply replied 1 month ago
Now the ecu locked me out
Ford Mechanic: Ron, ASE Certified Technician replied 1 month ago

If you have power at 87 and you jump it to 30 you should have power at the inertia switch. Pin #30 feeds the inertia switch.

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Customer reply replied 1 month ago
Well I do not.
Ford Mechanic: Ron, ASE Certified Technician replied 1 month ago

Okay then you have to be doing something wrong here. I will open this back up for you and perhaps some else has a easier fix for you.

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Customer reply replied 1 month ago
Well the ecu has now locked out
Ford Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 1 month ago
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if you don't have power at the inertia switch with 30 and 87 jumpered at the relay then you have an open wire between the relay and inertia switch. period

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Customer reply replied 1 month ago
Even with an open wire how can I reset the computer to allow my tonatnleast crank the car?
Ford Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 1 month ago

to allow your what?

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Customer reply replied 1 month ago
Was trouble shooting the exact way I was instructed. Thencomputer now will not read anything and will not allow the car to crank.
Ford Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 1 month ago

disconnect both battery terminals. short them together for 5 minutes. let them hang loose for 20 minutes then reconnect them

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Customer reply replied 1 month ago
I will try that after work
Ford Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 1 month ago

ok

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Customer reply replied 1 month ago
Still did now work.
Customer reply replied 1 month ago
Did not work
Ford Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 1 month ago

so when you try to start it nothing happens?

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Customer reply replied 1 month ago
Not a thing.
Ford Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 1 month ago

ok, let me look at a few things

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Customer reply replied 1 month ago
Alright thank you.
Ford Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 1 month ago

does the lights, horn, radio work?

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Customer reply replied 1 month ago
they do
Ford Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 1 month ago

doi you have a scan tool?

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Customer reply replied 1 month ago
As far as code? Yes but the computer will not let it read. It’s a hand help sct device
Ford Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 1 month ago

if you plug it into the diagnostic port, will the car start? sometimes this is a problem

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Customer reply replied 1 month ago
No. The computer still acts locked. At first it shows mileage etc, then dashes out and gives all the warnings.
Ford Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 1 month ago

ok, standby

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Customer reply replied 1 month ago
Ok
Ford Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 1 month ago

hows it going?

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Customer reply replied 28 days ago
Still locked out of the ecu. Ford will not reflash due to things done to the car.
Ford Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 28 days ago

nothing else I can help with if the computer has been tuned and the vehicle modded. good luck

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Ford Mechanic: Chris (aka- Moose), Technician replied 28 days ago
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Customer reply replied 28 days ago
Any help is appreciated
Ford Mechanic: Chris (aka- Moose), Technician replied 28 days ago

Remove the pump relay and jump a wire from pin 30 to 87, does the jumper have power? Does the inertia switch have power?

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Customer reply replied 28 days ago
No
Ford Mechanic: Chris (aka- Moose), Technician replied 28 days ago

No to which question?

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Customer reply replied 28 days ago
No power to inertia. Already tried all of this. Ecu will not communicate now. Just ordering a new one and retuning the car.
Ford Mechanic: Chris (aka- Moose), Technician replied 28 days ago

OKay, best of luck.

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