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I have a 04 explorer...
I have a 04 explorer and not sure if its a coincidence or nit but changed fule filter andbthebnext daybafter keaving work my husband said while sitting at a light the car lost all power and wouldnt restart its been 2 months and altho im a female i try not to need to reky on another to help me with the mabky things i encounter lol, anyhow he had it towed homed and since then i have checked the usual low maintence issues like fuse gas the pats system battery etc and mived on to the more extensive leading me here baffked and angered i cant figure this out!!! I have checked compression spark fuel and air and all is good. I have replaced the tps as to that being the onky code pulled i had taken the whole throttke body off and ckeaned it and still nothing!! therebare onlyntwo lights shown in the display panel andnthatbis the check gauge light and the battery light ( check charging system) whichbleads nento bekieve maybe the altnator i havent taken a voktometer to it yet andbactuakkyntested nor had it taken andbhad it bench tested because my husband is adimint in that nit being the issue!! So i moved on and hadnitntowed to a shop and was told it was the timing but wasnt told if itnwas front or back ifit jumped or broke and wheni asked why he came to that conclusion i was tokd by him just tryingto start it i asked if a comoression test was done and he said no!! Now fromnwhat i understand based on that renduring you cant say 109 or even 50% that isbthe issue without doing a compression test! so it was towed here again and i checked the compression which was good both banks i checked the coil pack andbruled that out its not the fuel cutoff switchbas to fuel gettingto the fuel rail and the fuek pump is working the inky thing i didnt do is check fuel pressure my husband did that and he saidit was good but inget a differnt answer everytime.. He is soldon the bekief its the timingissue stated before but my question is what woukd be the plausable step to take next as to nit wanting to kepp throwing moneybat this with no results
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Ford Mechanic: AMEDEE, FORD TECHNICIAN replied 10 months ago
AMEDEE
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Hello and welcome!

My name is ***** ***** I can assist you with your question.

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Ford Mechanic: AMEDEE, FORD TECHNICIAN replied 10 months ago

I can help you with this no start condition. However, I do have a few questions before we get started.

First, have you checked for codes in the computer?

Does the engine run on starting fluid?

Would you be willing to speak on the phone?

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Customer reply replied 10 months ago
you call if preferred an only tried starting fkuid once with no avail and had it checked with a scanner but onky code shown was i believe p203 but anyways it was saying it was the throttle body position sensor/actuator
Customer reply replied 10 months ago
Whichbwasbreplaced and made no difference
Ford Mechanic: AMEDEE, FORD TECHNICIAN replied 10 months ago

Thank you for that information. Are you able to send me the VIN?

That way I can look up specific information for you and help you diagnose this condition.

You can request a phone call on your end and I will call you right away.

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Customer reply replied 10 months ago
hold on one moment
Ford Mechanic: AMEDEE, FORD TECHNICIAN replied 10 months ago

ok

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Customer reply replied 10 months ago
I apologize i had a situation arise and had to leave promptly so i dont have the vin at the moment
Ford Mechanic: AMEDEE, FORD TECHNICIAN replied 10 months ago

No problem.

I can wait until you have the VIN..

Or I can send over a phone call offer for as little as $5 bucks. This way we can get started right away.

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Ford Mechanic: AMEDEE, FORD TECHNICIAN replied 10 months ago

I am waiting for your reply.

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Customer reply replied 10 months ago
I will wait on the call for now as to possibky needing it later and not being with the truck at the moment so it will be about an hour before i can produce the vin
Ford Mechanic: AMEDEE, FORD TECHNICIAN replied 10 months ago

Ok, sounds good.

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Ford Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 10 months ago
David Craig
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Hi Im David, the code you said was p0203?

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Customer reply replied 10 months ago
Im almost positive but i am for certain that the code was for the throttle body position sensor whichbwas replaced and no difference
Ford Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 10 months ago

ok, thats not a throttle position sensor code

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Customer reply replied 10 months ago
Ok well the one pulled was for the tips thats why i said i want 100% certain butted now that the code was for the tps
Customer reply replied 10 months ago
Tps
Ford Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 10 months ago

there are 7 or 8 codes for the tps.

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Ford Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 10 months ago

I will need the exact code to go any further.

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Customer reply replied 10 months ago
Im not much help there!! I only know that it was the throttle body sensor but like i said in my question it had been replaced as well as i have taken off the whole throttle body and cleaned it but still made no difference
Customer reply replied 10 months ago
Ok well it isn't pulling any codes since i replaced it is what in saying
Ford Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 10 months ago

did you just scan it for codes?

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Ford Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 10 months ago

is it still not starting?

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Customer reply replied 10 months ago
last week
Customer reply replied 10 months ago
it was P2135
Customer reply replied 10 months ago
still not starting
Customer reply replied 10 months ago
I had replaced the code as soon as it broke down like insaidbthis has been over 2 months ago since i have went thru everything in my knowledge that could cause it not to start
Ford Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 10 months ago

ok. P2135 will not keep it from starting

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Ford Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 10 months ago

you are getting off track from the not starting issue. does the vehicle crank?

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Customer reply replied 10 months ago
I was justntrying to give whoever some insight on what all i had done so they could eliminate the possibilities but i only started on the throttle codes because u asked
Customer reply replied 10 months ago
it cranks just doesn't turn over all the way it sometimes acts as if it is and then looses it all again if that makes sense
Ford Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 10 months ago

has it been checked for spark?

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Customer reply replied 10 months ago
i have stated all that in my initial post it has spark it has full up to fuel rail and compression is good
Ford Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 10 months ago

what about injector pulse?

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Customer reply replied 10 months ago
My brother had tested that and saiditbwas good
Customer reply replied 10 months ago
I didntnhave the tool tontest
Customer reply replied 10 months ago
Now as i also stated i had it towed tobanshop andnwas good itbwas the timing i wasnt told if it was the left or right or if jumped or broke but he said he didn't done compression test thats when i had it towed home and checked compression myself and it Wass good from my understanding i didn't things could definitely say it was timing without a compression test and only just trying to start it
Ford Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 10 months ago

ok. are you getting rpms when cranking the engine?

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Customer reply replied 10 months ago
No i don't believe so but i don't remember i have tried starting it in a while
Ford Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 10 months ago

very important to know

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Customer reply replied 10 months ago
Ok well ill be home in about 45 mins so i guess i can let u know then
Ford Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 10 months ago

ok. ill be here

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Ford Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 10 months ago

hows it going?

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Customer reply replied 10 months ago
Sorry about not getting back to you sooner!! Was admitted in the hospital with kidney stones and just now getting home and comfortable enuff to write back!! But yes I have rpms
Ford Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 10 months ago

ok. im going to open this up to the other techs to chime in. Im not sure what else to check and your initial page of the explanation is very confusing. please dont reply back or it will take the question off of the board.

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Ford Mechanic: Gary, ASE Certified Technician replied 10 months ago
Gary
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Hello there,

Sounds like the valve timing is wrong to me

Can you list your compression test figures please?

Exact numbers, not just good or ok please.

Gary

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