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Interior lights, instrumental cluster stay on, radio on when key is removed. why?
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Ford Mechanic: Jared D, ASE Certified Technician replied 10 months ago
Jared D
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Good afternoon,

To clarify, the radio, cluster, and interior lights stay on even when you open the driver door?

Have you tested the ignition switch yet?

Do you have a scan tool?

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Customer reply replied 10 months ago
even with the doors opend
Switch Tested- okcodes B1892 B1676 P1460
Ford Mechanic: Jared D, ASE Certified Technician replied 10 months ago

Let me see what those codes come up as. So the switch has been tested and it is not supplying voltage in the off position?

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Ford Mechanic: Jared D, ASE Certified Technician replied 10 months ago

Does the instrument panel have any other odd symptoms?

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Customer reply replied 10 months ago
here is what i Found out, I cut off thisBLK/red wire between ignition switch and BCM. Blk/red wire from ignition switch no power when key is off, which is ok, however same wire coming from BCM and Fuses Stays energized. When power supposed to come from ignition switch through fuses #6 and # 5 to get too BCM
Ford Mechanic: Jared D, ASE Certified Technician replied 10 months ago

So it's back feeding from somewhere.

Check the splice pack (connector) underneath the passenger front door sill panel. We see them get full of water and corrosion and start crossing voltage streams.

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Customer reply replied 10 months ago
pictures or diagram of splice pack?
Ford Mechanic: Jared D, ASE Certified Technician replied 10 months ago

I can't seem to find one anywhere. Maybe I'm thinking of the wrong model. I know this was an issue on the expedition, but the econoline may not have the same vehicle security module wiring setup.

Also, check the electronics module behind the fuse box under the dash. Sometimes we see them full of water and shorting voltage all over the place.

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Ford Mechanic: Jared D, ASE Certified Technician replied 10 months ago

The windshield seal will fail and leak right on top of the GEM (generic electronics module).

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Customer reply replied 10 months ago
dI just replaced thinking that it could've been GEM. Here is the thing, The power saver relay stay on all the time( Key is out, Doors opened and closed) it seems the Gem Is activating this because something is triggering. if switch is off and door ajar warning light turns on and off when doors open and closed. which Tells me door switched are Right?.
Ford Mechanic: Jared D, ASE Certified Technician replied 10 months ago

Yes that sounds right. If it was a door switch issue the dome light would be on all of the time.

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Customer reply replied 10 months ago
dome lights turns off when i close the doors, what else make the relay stay on and instrumental lights stay on, on ODO display shows just dash (------) instead of Miles. what could it be?
Ford Mechanic: Chris (aka- Moose), Technician replied 10 months ago
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Customer reply replied 10 months ago
here is the thing! 04 ford F150 4.6. Battery relay stay on all the time, making instrumental lights go on,
* dome Lights turns of when door close
* Ajar door warning lights turn on and off when door open and close
* Ignition switch tested OK, however the wire that to GEM stay hot all the time. it getting back feeding.
* Replace with a new GEM. but still the same. power battery saver ralay stay on
* Thinking tha GEM Is been triggered with some input to kept the relay on all the time.
What could it be trigging the GEM?
Customer reply replied 10 months ago
Rectified, it is 2003 Ford F150 Single Cab 4.6
Customer reply replied 10 months ago
by the way all this happens when key is out. Off position
Ford Mechanic: Chris (aka- Moose), Technician replied 10 months ago

Looking into the wire diagrams now.

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Ford Mechanic: Chris (aka- Moose), Technician replied 10 months ago

At the battery saver relay is pin 2 always grounded key off and doors shut?

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Customer reply replied 10 months ago
correct!
Ford Mechanic: Chris (aka- Moose), Technician replied 10 months ago

Check these fuses under the dash key off:

6 no power

8 no power

20 no power

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Customer reply replied 10 months ago
no power on these fuse - key off
Ford Mechanic: Chris (aka- Moose), Technician replied 10 months ago

Remove the battery saver relay, set you meter to OHMs to watch pin 2. Remove and install all fuses inside and out one by one till you see that meter go from 0.0 out of limits OL.

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Customer reply replied 10 months ago
what should we looking for in this test?
Customer reply replied 10 months ago
I'll have an answer tomorrow. Thank for your help
Ford Mechanic: Chris (aka- Moose), Technician replied 10 months ago

Thanks just reply when ready

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