Ford

Have Ford Questions? Ask a Mechanic for Answers ASAP

Ask an Expert,
Get an Answer ASAP!

Ford

My dads 1993 ford ranger 2.3L 2wd automatic truck died while

Customer Question
hello. So my dads 1993...
hello. So my dads 1993 ford ranger 2.3L 2wd automatic truck died while he was driving it about a month ago.I found 4-6 teeth missing off the timing belt.I went ahead and changed the timing belt and while i had everything apart i replaced the crank position sensor as it was damaged probably by the teeth that where jammed in there from the belt.After the job was completed it still would not start :-( So i tested for spark and is present.I checked for fuel pressure at the shrader valve on the fuel rail and it has 50 lbs to the rail. I replaced fuel pressure regulator with no avail. Then i checked for pulse on each injector and sure enough theres power going to them all.I just replaced all 4 injectors and still will not start,its close and wants to start but just wont.The check engine light comes on when you put the key on the on position so i know the computer should be good,also comes back on after i stop craking the motor over as well.I removed the fuel filter and its excellent with no resistance when i blow in it. Also,when i spray gas in the throttle body the truck will start and run till the fuel runs out. I cant figure out for the life of me what could be the problem and i have been a mechanic for 25 years!!! Very frustrating indeed as my pops has been out of his truck for a month now. I even had fuel pressure when i took the filter off and cranked the motor over fuel comes out nice and strong out of the line!!! The enertia switch is not activated cause i checked that too!! Need some help with this one!! Someone who has knowledge of this 1993 ford ranger!! Thank you
Submitted: 1 year ago.Category: Ford
Show More
Show Less
Ask Your Own Ford Question
Answered in 9 minutes by:
8/6/2016
Ford Mechanic: Mike V., Auto Service Technician replied 1 year ago
Mike V.
Mike V., Auto Service Technician
Category: Ford
Satisfied Customers: 25,870
Experience: 25 years experience on all makes and models, Licensed NYS Inspector.
Verified

Hi there,

It's my understanding that this truck uses the cam position sensor for injector pulse. Since it will run and you have good fuel pressure to the rail, and it will run off carb cleaner, then it seems there is a problem with the cam sensor signal to the pcm. This could be a failed sensor or a sensor that is out of time. This model uses a syncro tool to adjust the sensor. It could be that it's out of sync and causing the problem.

Hate to say that I am not 100% sure if this is the problem, but changing the belt may change the position of the cam sensor enough to be preventing the injector pulse.

Give it a try and let me know. If it doesn't resolve the problem, then let me know and I will open it back up for the other experts.

If it does, please throw me a positive rating. If not, no rating so I can open it up and the expert that can help does get paid.

Thanks.

Ask Your Own Ford Question
Customer reply replied 1 year ago
Hi Mike.But theres power going to the injectors,i used a noid light tester and sure enough when cranking the motor over the light blinks as it should when receiving power, on all 4 injector connectors theres power going to them.So i know the injectors are getting power to them i imagine.Do you still think its the cam sensor?
Ford Mechanic: Mike V., Auto Service Technician replied 1 year ago

Nope

I misunderstood and thought there wasn't injector pulse.

Since it will run off the starting fluid it seemed like no pulse.

Let me open it back up for the other experts and see what they think.

Please don't reply or rate because I want to see you get the help on this and they won't see it if you reply.

Ask Your Own Ford Question
Ford Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 1 year ago
David Craig
David Craig, Auto Mechanic
Category: Ford
Satisfied Customers: 4,015
Experience: owner/mechanic at 3D Automotive
Verified

Hi Im David......vehicle was running fine, had a good history prior to the belt jumping time?

Ask Your Own Ford Question
Customer reply replied 1 year ago
excellent as a matter of fact..not 1 issue. it ran great with only 150000 on it not one problem for year and a half since i bought t for my pops
Ford Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 1 year ago

OK, Lets do a compression test first my friend

Ask Your Own Ford Question
Ford Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 1 year ago

actually, before that, loosen the distributor and turn it a bit either way, then try starting.

Ask Your Own Ford Question
Ford Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 1 year ago

did you make sure the rotor was point to #1 at tdc?

Ask Your Own Ford Question
Customer reply replied 1 year ago
honestly,the motor ran fine with plenty of power and doesnt burn any oil so im not worried it has low compression.
What i need is after thoroughly reading my initial statement i need someone whoes extremely knowledgeable with older fords like this one.Also,it doesnt have a distributor,it has 2 coil packs and 8 spark plugs,2 per cylinder . Need a Ford tech with knowledge of these engines and trucks.Thanks
Ford Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 1 year ago

sorry for the error, i got stuck in the 80's for a minute

Ask Your Own Ford Question
Ford Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 1 year ago

and since it was running great before the timing belt issue and being that its not an interference engine then you're probably right on not worrying about the compression test. i will opt out and let someone else take over also.

Ask Your Own Ford Question
Ford Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 1 year ago

I gotta jump in one more time. did you make sure the crank shaft reluctor wheel didnt get damaged when the belt messd up?

Ask Your Own Ford Question
Ford Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 1 year ago

if the sensor wheel is ok, just double check everything. tdc on compression stroke, maybe you were 180 out? alot of guys set the timing 10 btdc which is not correct. make sure the keyway on the cam straight down the crank key way straight up, then set tension. that pretty much all there is to it as you already know

Ask Your Own Ford Question
Ford Mechanic: David Craig, Auto Mechanic replied 1 year ago

Ill stick with you unless you dont want me to, thats fine we have a lot of knowledge on here and our ultimate goal is your satisfaction.. I gotta run for a few, but will be back on later.

Ask Your Own Ford Question
Customer reply replied 1 year ago
its definately at tdc ,no doubt about it,ive been doing this since 1987 when i got into the auto industry. also it runs when i spray fuel into the throttle body so if it was out 180 it would probably not run for those few seconds till the gas burns out.but thanks anyway
Ford Mechanic: Kenny Z., Ford Senior Master Tech replied 1 year ago
Kenny Z.
Kenny Z., Ford Senior Master Tech
Category: Ford
Satisfied Customers: 5,573
Experience: Auto Trans, Drivability and Electrical Specialist
Verified

Just my 2 cents, based on everything I read here, you have a crank sensor issue identifying #1 correctly for injector timing. Did you use this tool when installing the crank sensor?

https://www.amazon.com/OTC-6466-Crankshaft-Positioning-Gauge/dp/B000RFBKEI

  • Install the timing sensor onto the dowel pin and tighten the two longer bolts to 8-12 Nm (6-9 ft-lb).
  • Align the timing sensor as follows:
  • Rotate the crankshaft 45 degrees (1/8 turn) counterclockwise and install the crankshaft pulley and hub assembly. Tighten the bolt to specification.
  • Rotate the crankshaft 90 degrees (1/4 turn) clockwise so that the vane of the crankshaft pulley engages with the Timing Sensor Positioner T89P-6316-A. Tighten the two shorter sensor bolts to 2.3-3.5 Nm (21-31 in-lb).

  • Rotate the crankshaft 90 degrees (1/4 turn) counterclockwise and remove the sensor positioner.
  • Rotate the crankshaft 90 degrees (1/4 turn) clockwise and measure the outer vane to sensor air gap. The air gap must be 0.458 to 0.996 mm (0.018-0.039 inch).
  • Install the timing belt outer cover and the spark plugs.
Ask Your Own Ford Question
Customer reply replied 1 year ago
Hi Kenny.Yes i did use the sensor tool,it came with the new sensor.I followed the instructions on the Chilton manual on how to gap it and i think i got it within spec.I tried to get it as even on both sides of the reluctor wheel as possible. It wasnt as detailed as what you wrote above but i went with what it said.Are you sayin that if its off just a hair it will cause a no start? Its driving me crazy!!!
Ford Mechanic: Kenny Z., Ford Senior Master Tech replied 1 year ago

Its the only thing that makes any sense to me, I could be wrong. I mean it runs on external fuel, right? So compression and ignition good, Do you have any idea if it is getting fuel in the cylinders? Plugs getting wet or smell like fuel? If there's fuel pressure and pulsewidth and new injectors....

Ask Your Own Ford Question
Ford Mechanic: Kenny Z., Ford Senior Master Tech replied 1 year ago

That's a tight spec on the air gap, I assume it must be important.

Ask Your Own Ford Question
Customer reply replied 1 year ago
i never pulled a plug to see if its wet and i dont smell gas when i crank it over,but it wants to start,and it ran for a second or two a couple times.Does the crank sensor control fuel ? It just make no sense tht theres 50 lbs of fuel pressure at the rail,i have pulsewidth at all 4 connectors yet it wont start...i also read on a ford forum online typically if you can get a business card between the sensor and wheel should be in spec.
Ford Mechanic: Kenny Z., Ford Senior Master Tech replied 1 year ago

Its a dual function sensor, it has two sensors one hall effect which is used for cyl #1 position to time the injectors and the other sensor is the profile pickup used for spark and crankshaft speed for the PCM. That's why there is no cam sensor. The alignment procedure is for the hall effect sensor. I am not sure what the strategy is in the PCM if the hall effect is not timed correctly, whether it goes into some kind of limited strategy or not. I know when vehicles that have cam sensors out of time even by a degree or two the engine will start and stall repeatedly.

Ask Your Own Ford Question
Ford Mechanic: Kenny Z., Ford Senior Master Tech replied 1 year ago

Hello again,

If you need further assistance please feel free to reply and we can continue. Otherwise please take a moment to rate my answer as you see fit. After rating, the thread is still available should you need further assistance. Experts are not compensated without a positive rating. Providing a rating does not close the question, you can reply or ask additional questions without incurring further charges.

Thanks,

Kenny Z

Ask Your Own Ford Question
Ask Kenny Z. Your Own Question
Kenny Z.
Kenny Z.
Kenny Z., Ford Senior Master Tech
Category: Ford
Satisfied Customers: 5,573
5,573 Satisfied Customers
Experience: Auto Trans, Drivability and Electrical Specialist

Kenny Z. is online now

A new question is answered every 9 seconds

How JustAnswer works:

  • Ask an ExpertExperts are full of valuable knowledge and are ready to help with any question. Credentials confirmed by a Fortune 500 verification firm.
  • Get a Professional AnswerVia email, text message, or notification as you wait on our site. Ask follow up questions if you need to.
  • 100% Satisfaction GuaranteeRate the answer you receive.

JustAnswer in the News:

Ask-a-doc Web sites: If you've got a quick question, you can try to get an answer from sites that say they have various specialists on hand to give quick answers... Justanswer.com.
JustAnswer.com...has seen a spike since October in legal questions from readers about layoffs, unemployment and severance.
Web sites like justanswer.com/legal
...leave nothing to chance.
Traffic on JustAnswer rose 14 percent...and had nearly 400,000 page views in 30 days...inquiries related to stress, high blood pressure, drinking and heart pain jumped 33 percent.
Tory Johnson, GMA Workplace Contributor, discusses work-from-home jobs, such as JustAnswer in which verified Experts answer people’s questions.
I will tell you that...the things you have to go through to be an Expert are quite rigorous.

What Customers are Saying:

AlvinC answered a question about my Ford truck that only someone with an in-depth knowledge of his subject would have known what was going on.

Rich DUSA

Because of your expertise, you armed me with enough ammunition to win the battle with the dealer. They are installing a fuel filter and fuel pump at no charge to me.

MollyUSA

I needed help with my car on Saturday morning....got a response in 5 minutes, and it was the perfect solution. Thanks again to your service.

Jason V.Kirkland, WA

I do know, after going though this with JustAnswer, that I can somewhat trust my mechanic but I will always contact you prior to going there.

BRNew Jersey

I would (and have) recommend your site to others I was quite satisfied with the quality of the information received, the professional with whom I interacted, and the quick response time. Thanks, and be sure that I'll be back whenever I need a question answered in a hurry.

Stephanie PElm City, NC

used your service this weekend with "Trecers" help. thank you ,thank you, thank you. replaced an A/C fan motor. Local Auto Zone had part. $15.00 "tracer" fee and $40.00 for parts, I saved several hundreds of dollers at a shop. i will recommend you and use you in the future.

David L.Richmond, TX

9 dollars, 2 hours of my time, and I drove away. Your diagnosis was right on the mark. Thank you so much.

PhilMarysville, CA

< Previous | Next >

Meet the Experts:

Ron

Ron

ASE Certified Technician

24,155 satisfied customers

23 years with Ford specializing in drivability and electrical and AC. Ford certs and ASE Certs

Chris (aka- Moose)

Chris (aka- Moose)

Technician

27,937 satisfied customers

16 years experience

John Mc

John Mc

Ford Technician

5,495 satisfied customers

19 years Ford Lincoln Mercury experience

Chuck

Chuck

ASE Certified Technician

1,685 satisfied customers

33 Years Experience,Ford Senior Master,ASE Master,L1 Advanced Engine Performance

Cam

Cam

Journeyman Automotive Technician

10 satisfied customers

GM Grand Master Technician 2007. 14 years Automotive experience.

Richard

Richard

ASE Certified Technician

1,524 satisfied customers

12 years at a Ford Lincoln/Mercury and Jaguar dealer as a technician and shop foreman.

Mike V.

Mike V.

Auto Service Technician

25,870 satisfied customers

25 years experience on all makes and models, Licensed NYS Inspector.

< Previous | Next >

Related Ford Questions
Getting spark to distributor but not to spark plugs. 1986
getting spark to distributor but not to spark plugs. 1986 ford ranger. 4 cylinder 2.3 liter engine … read more
heavy_chevy_396
heavy_chevy_396
Vocational, Technical or Trade Scho
2,518 satisfied customers
I'm trying to replace the number 4 spark plug on a 2004 Ford
I'm trying to replace the number 4 spark plug on a 2004 Ford F-150 5.4L v8 Triton engine. It seems like the spark plug socket isn't grabbing the plug, and it just keeps spinning around. … read more
Ron
Ron
ASE Certified Technician
Vocational, Technical or Trade Scho
24,155 satisfied customers
Replaced the spark plugs on my 2011 Ford Taurus, but a month
Replaced the spark plugs on my 2011 Ford Taurus, but a month later I got P0305 so I went to autozone and picked up a coil and replaced it. Now a month after that, I have p0205 and p0305. I switched th… read more
Dan
Dan
Automotive Technician
Vocational, Technical or Trade Scho
25 satisfied customers
I have a spark plug in an Explorer that is stuck and now the
I have a spark plug in an Explorer that is stuck and now the spark plug is stripped … read more
heavy_chevy_396
heavy_chevy_396
Vocational, Technical or Trade Scho
2,518 satisfied customers
Need a crankshaft timing belt sprocket w/rotary vane for
Need a crankshaft timing belt sprocket w/rotary vane for crankshaft positioning sensor. … read more
Chris (aka- Moose)
Chris (aka- Moose)
Technician
Vocational, Technical or Trade School
27,937 satisfied customers
What is a reasonable price for a tune-up and spark plugs
What is a reasonable price for a tune-up and spark plugs that aren't connecting consecutively… read more
Ron
Ron
ASE Certified Technician
Vocational, Technical or Trade Scho
24,155 satisfied customers
I week ago, the full set of spark plugs were changed, and
I week ago, the full set of spark plugs were changed, and the gearbox oil replaced. Yesteday, and intense vibration in the engine and and acute noise appear when the car is in D or R, but not when it … read more
eauto
eauto
self employed
High School or GED
74 satisfied customers
3 spark plug wires were chewed in half on right side of six
3 spark plug wires were chewed in half on right side of six cylinder, so wanted to doublecheck location on distributor cap … read more
Randall
Randall
Auto Technician / Consultant
Vocational, Technical or Trade Scho
69 satisfied customers
I have a 2001 Ford Escape V6 and one of my spark plugs is
Hello, I have a 2001 Ford Escape V6 and one of my spark plugs is stripped: the 5/8 socket will not grab it. Since the spark plug sits deep in the valve cover I cannot grab it with a vice grip or any o… read more
kalamykid
kalamykid
Pactor automotive
Vocational, Technical or Trade Scho
97 satisfied customers
I have a 2013 1.6 ecoboost escape I replaced the timing belt
I have a 2013 1.6 ecoboost escape I replaced the timing belt and now it will not start. I have the tool set I found the crank pin hole under the axle I installed the cam tool so what did I do wrong or… read more
Dan
Dan
Dealership Technician
182 satisfied customers
Do you know if Ford Fairmont 2001 has a time belt or a time
hi - do you know if Ford Fairmont 2001 has a time belt or a time chain? :) … read more
Peter Bagley
Peter Bagley
master technition
Vocational, Technical or Trade School
900 satisfied customers
Check engine light after changing spark plugs, stays on,
check engine light after changing spark plugs JA: Does the light stay on, or does it blink? Customer: stays on JA: What is the model/year of your Ford? Customer: 1992 F15 4.9 JA: Are you fixing your v… read more
Ron
Ron
ASE Certified Technician
Vocational, Technical or Trade Scho
24,155 satisfied customers
Oil in spark plug well of ford 5.4 Triton engine. 3000
yes, Was told there was blown out plug, so am pulling plugs one by one to check. This is the one passenger side closest to cab … read more
Chad Farhat
Chad Farhat
Owner
Associate Degree
4,000 satisfied customers
Changed the spark plugs that were toasted could not get two
changed the spark plugs that were toasted could not get two out on the far left side. It then would shoot high rpms to 4k rpm, then i changed the Idle air then the throttle position sensor which i onl… read more
Mechanic01
Mechanic01
1,138 satisfied customers
Have 2013 ford fusion 1.6l with 79,000 miles. spark plug
have 2013 ford fusion 1.6l with 79,000 miles. spark plug wont come out and dealership says they have to replace the whole valve at 3700. Engine overheated the other day so we check codes and found the… read more
Gunvir Singh
Gunvir Singh
1,702 satisfied customers
If a timing belt breaks on a 1999 ford ranger with a 2.5l
if a timing belt breaks on a 1999 ford ranger with a 2.5l engine, am I going to find that it probably bent the valves?… read more
Eric
Eric
Auto Technician
589 satisfied customers
I have A ford fusion 4 cylinder changed spark plugs and
I have A ford fusion 4 cylinder changed spark plugs and boots . now I have a shimmy when idle could it be the coils ? … read more
Ron Z.
Ron Z.
Vocational, Technical or Trade Scho
2 satisfied customers
L loosen the spark plug on passenger side and 2nd spark plug
Hi l loosen the spark plug on passenger side and 2nd spark plug from front, l can't pick up .l think it's lean on the side, it's very tight place but l deal with it, then nothink work's. Thank you. It… read more
Kenny Z.
Kenny Z.
Ford Senior Master Tech
5,573 satisfied customers
Disclaimer: Information in questions, answers, and other posts on this site ("Posts") comes from individual users, not JustAnswer; JustAnswer is not responsible for Posts. Posts are for general information, are not intended to substitute for informed professional advice (medical, legal, veterinary, financial, etc.), or to establish a professional-client relationship. The site and services are provided "as is" with no warranty or representations by JustAnswer regarding the qualifications of Experts. To see what credentials have been verified by a third-party service, please click on the "Verified" symbol in some Experts' profiles. JustAnswer is not intended or designed for EMERGENCY questions which should be directed immediately by telephone or in-person to qualified professionals.

Disclaimer: Information in questions, answers, and other posts on this site ("Posts") comes from individual users, not JustAnswer; JustAnswer is not responsible for Posts. Posts are for general information, are not intended to substitute for informed professional advice (medical, legal, veterinary, financial, etc.), or to establish a professional-client relationship. The site and services are provided "as is" with no warranty or representations by JustAnswer regarding the qualifications of Experts. To see what credentials have been verified by a third-party service, please click on the "Verified" symbol in some Experts' profiles. JustAnswer is not intended or designed for EMERGENCY questions which should be directed immediately by telephone or in-person to qualified professionals.

Show MoreShow Less

Ask Your Question

x