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2008 Ford Escape won't start with key. Replaced ignition…

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2008 Ford Escape won't start...
2008 Ford Escape won't start with key. Replaced ignition strict and starter. Now here's the kicker, if I turn the key then pop my hood and use a wire on a sensor if starts! What could this mean?
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Ford Mechanic: Mike S., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 years ago
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Is this an escape or a escape hybrid and is it a xlt, xls or limited and which engine, the 2.3, 3.0 and what sensor under the hood are you referring to and where is the other end of the wire attached to?

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Escape, i don't know if it's an xlt or xls, I believe it's a v6, and I'm not sure what sensor, a guy who knows stuff about cars figured it out for me, and the wire has nothing attached to it. It's just a piece of wire with two ends and I touch the two ends on this sensor and the car starts
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Xlt, 3.0. Just looked it up with the vin
Ford Mechanic: Mike S., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 years ago

I need to know what sensor this is. Can you take a photo of your finger pointing to it or something marking it and post the photo?

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Ford Mechanic: Mike S., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 years ago

Ok, that looks like a relay socket. Did you remove the relay right there?

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
I bought a new sensor and it didn't fix the problem.
Ford Mechanic: Mike S., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 years ago

Yeah, here is that Battery Junction Box ,

the relay yo pulled out was the starter relay. Try pulling one of those other relays and put it in that spot and see if the starter cranks now.

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Ford Mechanic: Mike S., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 years ago

the other 3 in that same spot are all cooling fan relays, so try one of them.

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Didn't do anything
Ford Mechanic: Mike S., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 years ago

Ok, so you swapped a relay, is that what you are telling me?

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Yeah I tried all of them
Ford Mechanic: Mike S., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 years ago

Ok,I can see you are jumping 5 to 3 in the relay socket. Do you have a voltmeter or 12 volt test light?

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
No I do not
Ford Mechanic: Mike S., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 years ago

Check this fuse, the #27 in the smart junction box under the center of the dash. It should be hot all the time. It feeds that starter relay via the ignition switch, pcm and neutral switch.

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Ford Mechanic: Mike S., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 years ago

Replace that fuse then even if it appears not blown if you have another 20a fuse.

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Ford Mechanic: Mike S., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 years ago

Then with the starter relay in see if the starter cranks now.

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Ford Mechanic: Mike S., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 years ago

Here is the wiring diagram in case we need it for the starter,

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Now I am super confused lol I'm sorry I'm not a mechanic. Should I go to autozone and buy these parts ?
Ford Mechanic: Mike S., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 years ago

Fuses? Look in the fuse box for a spare. I would check the fuse first before you go to autozone. there is also the MIDI fusible link 174a before that #27 fuse.

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Ford Mechanic: Mike S., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 years ago

At least just look at both of them and if 1 is blown get a new fuse if you don't have a spare and while you are there pick up a $5 12 volt test light or multi-meter which will have a voltmeter.

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Ford Mechanic: Mike S., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 years ago

If the fuse is blown, make sure you take it with you too so you get the right type and amperage.

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
I don't have any fuses that say 20a
Ford Mechanic: Mike S., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 years ago

What do you mean, spares or are you talking about in the smart junction box under the center of the dash?

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Ford Mechanic: Mike S., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 years ago

Go back to that fuse box where you was under the hood and remove and check that MIDI fusible link 175a. I know I misspelled it before and said 174a, it's a 175a.

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Ford Mechanic: Mike S., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 years ago

OOps, it's actually a 125a. I see it in that diagram now.

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
How do I check it
Ford Mechanic: Mike S., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 years ago

First of all, see if it does come out. If so, about all you can do without a voltmeter or 12 volt test light is remove it and look to see if it's blown.

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Ford Mechanic: Mike S., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 years ago

If you don't know what to look for, remove it and take a photo and post that photo and I'll look at it.

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
I can't get it out
Ford Mechanic: Mike S., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 years ago

Do you have a pair of pliers? If so, gently try to pull that fuse straight out, maybe wiggling just a little.

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Ford Mechanic: Mike S., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 years ago

get it out yet?

You also need to check that fuse #27 in the smart junction box under the center of the dash if that 125a fuse is ok.

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Getting pliers right now from my neighbor
Ford Mechanic: Mike S., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 years ago

ok

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
The fuse doesn't come out with pliers, I would need a ratchet set which I don't have.
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
There's really not much I am going to be able to do it looks like
Ford Mechanic: Mike S., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 years ago

Forget that fuse for now, that 125a fuse feeds that other #27 fuse anyhow, so you could just check that fuse #27 for now.

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Where's that fuse
Ford Mechanic: Mike S., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 years ago

fuse #27 in the smart junction box under the center of the dash

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Ford Mechanic: Mike S., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 years ago

Here is a diagram of the Smart Junction Box Components

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Ford Mechanic: Mike S., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 years ago

here shows where the smart junction box is, look at the bottom of this diagram, slightly to the right of the middle,

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
I don't know how to check it and it's getting really cold and snowy where I am
At. I am going to have to call it a night. I am so sorry.
Ford Mechanic: Mike S., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 years ago

This video shows how, the 4th video is about looking at the fuse. http://www.carcarekiosk.com/video/2008_Ford_Escape_Hybrid_2.3L_4_Cyl./fuse_interior/replace

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Ford Mechanic: Mike S., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 years ago

I will check in on you tomorrow to see how you are doing.

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Ford Mechanic: Mike S., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 years ago

any news?

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
My husband has the car at work today.
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
I won't be able to do anything until
Tomorrow
Ford Mechanic: Mike S., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 years ago

Ok, the next thing was checking that fuse #27 in the fuse box in the center of the dash, just in case you forgot.

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When you turn the key to the ON position does the theft light flash rapidly? Or does it come on solid for 3 seconds then go off?

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