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2000 f150: rough..cold start, but after warms up runs great

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2000 f150 5.4l engine. Runs very rough when cold start, but after warms up runs great. We have replaced spark plugs, mass air sensor, oxy sensors before & after cat. Exactly same problem. this engine has 94058 miles on it. What do we do now?
Submitted: 5 years ago.
Category: Ford
Expert:  AMEDEE replied 5 years ago.

Is the check engine light on?

Are there any codes in the computer?

Have you checked fuel pressure when this happens?
Customer: replied 5 years ago.
Check engine light was on, but we fixed that problem with what we have done already.
codes are po300 & po171. We have not checked fuel pressure when this is happening.
Expert:  AMEDEE replied 5 years ago.
It sounds to me like you just have an air or a vacuum leak. This is very common on this engine. Check the PCV hose and system to be sure it is not leaking engine vacuum. Also, be sure that the baro reading is correct. This is done with a scan tool looking at the psi or HZ reading. In addition, be sure that the fuel pressure is 28 to 45 psi when the engine is running. Another thing would be to check the engine coolant temp sensor as this can cause your condition too.

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Customer: replied 5 years ago.
I am going to check the things you suggested. May I ask more questions if I need too?
Expert:  AMEDEE replied 5 years ago.
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Customer: replied 5 years ago.
We have replaced the PCV valve and hoses, Fuel pressure is 32 psi even when running rough. Coolant temp sensor is working. Is it possible we have an intake leak? What are your thoughts about that?
Expert:  AMEDEE replied 5 years ago.

YES! This is very possible!! It could just be leaking when it is cold and not when warm because the gasket expands when it warms up. This does happen from time to time.
Customer: replied 5 years ago.
It happens every morning, but after a few minutes it stops. Then runs fine the rest of the day.
Expert:  AMEDEE replied 5 years ago.
I would honestly recommend to get your intake smoked checked for leaks. This is done best with a smoke machine.
Customer: replied 5 years ago.
I just got new information that throw everything we have done out the window:( The customer has explained to me the symptoms differently than my tech has. It starts cold and runs fine for about 5 minutes the just like you flipped a switch it begins idling very rough and sometimes dies. It will continue to run rough for 30 minutes to an hour then run fine again for rest of the day. We checked the vacuum when running it is 18 in Hg which seems very low.
Expert:  AMEDEE replied 5 years ago.
Yeah.. thats odd.. no codes in the computer?

Does the fuel pressure leak down with the key off?