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I own a 2006 f-150 with a 5.4 liter triton engine. I recently

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I own a 2006 f-150 with a 5.4 liter triton engine. I recently took my truck in to adress a valve/lifter tick that started about 2 weeks prior. I was told that they could solve the pecking sound but that there was about 1/4 inch of play in the crankshaft and that the top end of the engine was being slowly starved of oil flow. Therefore the fix was only temporary and it was a matter of less than 20,000 miles before I was looking at major engine failure. I was told that it was 2 different problems. 1. The use of aftermarket oil filters. 2. An inherent problem with the late 06 and 07 5.4s. The truck has 117,000 highway miles, has had 0 problems before now, and has always been properly maintained. I am just amazed that this could be possible and I have gotten conflicting reports about this being an inherent problem. I also have found nothing on the web confirming this. Please advise.
Submitted: 8 years ago.
Category: Ford
Expert:  Bob replied 8 years ago.
Customer

 

I'm a shop foreman for a large dealer and I haven't heard of any inherent problems with 06/07 F150 5.4's. I know of a tsb for stuck valve lash adjusters that cause a loud ticking noise in the valve train area. Depending on the engine build date your truck may have had this issue. Ford is always big on aftermarket oil filters, some of them allow oil to drain back causing top end noise on start-up's.

 

 

 

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Customer: replied 8 years ago.
The Ford tech I spoke with said they could fix the valve lash adjusters but that within 10,000 miles the problem would re-occur. What is your opinion about the crank shaft being able to be pulled out 1/8 inch, and do you recomend having the valve lash adjusters repaired or do you see a future larger problem with the engine. The truck was manufactured in 08-06.
Expert:  Bob replied 8 years ago.
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TSB
06-9-11
  • LOUD TICKING NOISE - 3-VALVE ENGINES - STUCK LASH ADJUSTER
Publication Date: May 1, 2006

FORD:2006 Mustang, Expedition, Explorer, F-150, F-250, F-350
LINCOLN:2006 Mark LT, Navigator
MERCURY:2006 Mountaineer

ISSUE:

Some vehicles equipped with 4.6L, 5.4L, and 6.8L 3-valve engines built between 1/11/2006 and 2/14/2006 may exhibit a loud ticking noise in the valve train area. This may be caused by a stuck/collapsed lash adjuster.

ACTION:

Verify engine build date, isolate, and replace any stuck/collapsed lash adjuster by following the Service Procedure.

SERVICE PROCEDURE

  1. Check date code on the engine, located on the engine timing cover.
    1. Date code between 1/11/2006 and 2/14/2006, proceed to Step 2.
    2. Date code NOT between 1/11/2006 and 2/14/2006, this TSB does not apply, perform normal diagnostics.
  2. Isolate the source of the noise to the cam cover on either Bank 1 or Bank 2. If the noise is not isolated to either cam cover, this TSB does not apply. Follow normal Workshop Manual (WSM) procedures for additional diagnostics.
  3. Remove the appropriate cam cover.
  4. Check for stuck/collapsed lash adjuster(s) by placing the cam lobe on the base circle and inspecting for loose cam followers as a result of the lash adjuster plunger being bottomed out.

    NOTE:A COLLAPSED LASH ADJUSTER WILL RESULT IN EXCESSIVE CLEARANCE BETWEEN THE LASH ADJUSTER AND THE CAM FOLLOWER.

    NOTE:WHEN CHECKING "3V" LASH ADJUSTERS - A "SPONGY" LASH ADJUSTER IS NORMAL WHEN OIL PRESSURE IS "NOT" APPLIED.

     

  5. Replace only the affected lash adjuster(s) on the affected bank(s) following the procedures outlined in the appropriate WSM, Section 303.

PART NUMBERPART NAME
5L1Z-6500-AAdjuster Assembly

WARRANTY STATUS:

Eligible Under Provisions Of New Vehicle Limited Warranty Coverage

OPERATIONDESCRIPTIONTIME
060911A2006 Expedition/Navigator 5.4L 3V: Isolate And Replace Lash Adjuster(s) Right Side Of Engine (Do Not Use With 6051A, 6306A, 9424A, 6584A, 6256A, 6250A, 6500A) 4.6 Hrs.
060911A2006 F-150/Mark LT 5.4L 3V: Isolate And Replace Lash Adjuster (s) Right Side Of Engine (Do Not Use With 6051A, 6306A, 9424A, 6584A, 6256A, 6250A, 6500A)3.8 Hrs.
060911A2006 Explorer/Mountaineer 4.6L 3V: Isolate And Replace Lash Adjuster(s) Right Side Of Engine (Do Not Use With 6051A, 6306A, 9424A, 6584A, 6256A, 6250A, 6500A)2.6 Hrs.
060911A2006 Super Duty 5.4L 3V: Isolate And Replace Lash Adjuster(s) Right Side Of Engine (Do Not Use With 6051A, 6306A, 9424A, 6584A, 6256A, 6250A, 6500A)3.2 Hrs.
060911A2006 Super Duty 6.8L 3V: Isolate And Replace Lash Adjuster(s) Right Side Of Engine (Do Not Use With 6051A, 6306A, 9424A, 6584A, 6256A, 6250A, 6500A)4.9 Hrs.
060911A2006 Mustang 4.6L 3V: Isolate And Replace Lash Adjuster (s) Right Side Of Engine (Do Not Use With 6051A, 6306A, 9424A, 6584A, 6256A, 6250A, 6500A) 2.3 Hrs.
060911B2006 Expedition/Navigator 5.4L 3V: Isolate And Replace Lash Adjuster(s) Left Side Of Engine (Do Not Use With 6051A, 6306A, 9424A, 6584A, 6256A, 6250A, 6500A)2.6 Hrs.
060911B2006 F-150/Mark LT 5.4L 3V: Isolate And Replace Lash Adjuster (s) Left Side Of Engine (Do Not Use With 6051A, 6306A, 9424A, 6584A, 6256A, 6250A, 6500A)2.6 Hrs.
060911B2006 Explorer/Mountaineer 4.6L 3V:: Isolate And Replace Lash Adjuster(s) Left Side Of Engine (Do Not Use With 6051A, 6306A, 9424A, 6584A, 6256A, 6250A, 6500A)2.4 Hrs.
060911B2006 Super Duty 5.4L 3V: Isolate And Replace Lash Adjuster(s) Left Side Of Engine (Do Not Use With 6051A, 6306A, 9424A, 6584A, 6256A, 6250A, 6500A)2.7 Hrs.
060911B2006 Super Duty 6.8L 3V: Isolate And Replace Lash Adjuster(s) Left Side Of Engine (Do Not Use With 6051A, 6306A, 9424A, 6584A, 6256A, 6250A, 6500A)3.1 Hrs.
060911B2006 Mustang 4.6L 3V: Isolate And Replace Lash Adjuster (s) Left Side Of Engine (Do Not Use With 6051A, 6306A, 9424A, 6584A, 6256A, 6250A, 6500A)2.4 Hrs.
060911C2006 Expedition/Navigator 5.4L 3V: Isolate And Replace Lash Adjuster(s) Both Sides Of Engine (Do Not Use With 6051A, 6306A, 9424A, 6584A, 6256A, 6250A, 6500A)6.6 Hrs.
060911C2006 F-150/Mark LT 5.4L 3V: Isolate And Replace Lash Adjuster (s) Both Sides Of Engine (Do Not Use With 6051A, 6306A, 9424A, 6584A, 6256A, 6250A, 6500A)5.6 Hrs.
060911C2006 Explorer/Mountaineer 4.6L 3V: Isolate And Replace Lash Adjuster(s) Both Sides Of Engine (Do Not Use With 6051A, 6306A, 9424A, 6584A, 6256A, 6250A, 6500A)4.4 Hrs.
060911C2006 Super Duty 5.4L 3V: Isolate And Replace Lash Adjuster(s) Both Sides Of Engine (Do Not Use With 6051A, 6306A, 9424A, 6584A, 6256A, 6250A, 6500A)5.3 Hrs.
060911C2006 Super Duty 6.8L 3V: Isolate And Replace Lash Adjuster(s) Both Sides Of Engine (Do Not Use With 6051A, 6306A, 9424A, 6584A, 6256A, 6250A, 6500A)7.4 Hrs.
060911C2006 Mustang 4.6L 3V: Isolate And Replace Lash Adjuster (s) Both Sides Of Engine (Do Not Use With 6051A, 6306A, 9424A, 6584A, 6256A, 6250A, 6500A)4.2 Hrs.

DEALER CODING

BASIC PART NO.CONDITION CODE
650069

NOTE: The information in Technical Service Bulletins is intended for use by trained, professional technicians with the knowledge, tools, and equipment to do the job properly and safely. It informs these technicians of conditions that may occur on some vehicles, or provides information that could assist in proper vehicle service. The procedures should not be performed by "do-it-yourselfers". Do not assume that a condition described affects your car or truck. Contact a Ford, Lincoln, or Mercury dealership to determine whether the Bulletin applies to your vehicle. Warranty Policy and Extended Service Plan documentation determine Warranty and/or Extended Service Plan coverage unless stated otherwise in the TSB article. The information in this Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) was current at the time of printing. Ford Motor Company reserves the right to supercede this information with updates. The most recent information is available through Ford Motor Company's on-line technical resources.

Copyright © 2006 Ford Motor Company

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Expert:  Bob replied 8 years ago.
Customer

 

I still don't know if your engine is under tsb because I would need the number from the engine, I know the truck was manuf in 8/06 but engine was build before that.

 

I f it was me I would get the valve lasher done, I haven't seen a crankshaft problem on any 06/07 yet. Not to say your truck doesn't have a issue with the crankshaft I just haven't seen or read that anywhere.

I enclosed the tsb so you could read it.

 

Thank's Bob

Customer: replied 8 years ago.

Bob

I did not get the last part of your message about your recommendation until Tues A.M. Thanks for your help. I will take my f-150 to another dealership and ask them their opinion as well. You have at least created enough doubt in my first diagnosis that I won,t just buy a new truck without confirming I have terminal engine failure in the near future.

Thanks Again