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FOR DWAYNE B ONLY...I quit my job after 8 years because I was told not to file for FMLA leave for the birth of our son. Despite being persuaded NOT to pursue FMLA, I filed electronically via the employer's online HR tool. I was contacted by HR and was told I needed a doctor's certification for them to approve FMLA leave.My wife had complications throughout her pregnancy, and will most likely require a hysterectomy at this point. In addition to paternal bonding, I also needed to help her care for our son.I feel the pending case from 2 years ago, and lack of knowledge by my direct supervisor (who has been fired after 5 months) led to the obstacles placed in my path. Do I have a case if I sue for FMLA violations?Also, I was never informed of my rights under FMLA Despite my employer knowing that my wife was pregnant and hospitalized twice. I took 2 weeks vacation time only.
Submitted: 1 year ago.
Category: Employment Law
Expert:  Dwayne B. replied 1 year ago.

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What happened after you got the doctor's certification?

Also, how many employees work at your location?

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Over 75 is a large Auto Group with over 18 franchises. I never obtained a doctors certification because I wasn't providing medical care. Just Paternal Bonding.
Expert:  Dwayne B. replied 1 year ago.

They can still request a doctor's certification as to your wife's condition.

If you didn't provide one then it is going to make your case more difficult but since they never discussed your rights you at least have an argument.

You have to start by filing a complaint with the Department of Labor. The website for that is at

They will investigate and then either enter an order or tell you that you can sue.

You may want to visit with a local lawyer that does employment law, you can find one at, in the section for Area of Practice enter Employment Law. If they are interested in representing you they may want to look over any papers you send to the Department of Labor.

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Customer: replied 1 year ago.
I never intended on providing care for my wife. The reason I explained was to be home with my newborn son. I was made to come back 3 days after his birth. Additionally, I was told to "work whatever hours I felt I could", I was kept after closing for 2 consecutive days, and I finally had enough and quit. They knew I needed to be home, and was only working during the peak times to assist them.
Expert:  Dwayne B. replied 1 year ago.

Yes, but until your child is born the issue was with your wife and so they are allowed to ask for the certification. You can make the argument that it was for care of the child and that if they needed a certification for that they could have asked but that is only after the child is born.

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
It was after his birth
Expert:  Dwayne B. replied 1 year ago.

That definitely works in your favor then. Your argument is that you were taking it for the child, not for the mother and they didn't ask for a doctor's note on the child. It's a technical argument but it shoudl work.

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
They DID ask for medical certification for the bonding with newborn. Which is why I didn't complete it. I was also told by other managers that I should not have taken any vacation time as it cost them over $20,000. I complained to my then supervisor, and nothing was done. In fact, it became worse from the other managers. I went above his head, and the same manager that never helped resolve my issue, called me and asked why I went over his head.
Expert:  Dwayne B. replied 1 year ago.

I don't understand what you mean by the first two sentences. Why wouldn't you complete it if they asked for it?

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Because they don't need a doctors certification for bonding. There is nothing to certify, as it is not a medical condition.
Expert:  Dwayne B. replied 1 year ago.

Yes, but what they are going to say is that they requested a doctor's certification as to the birth of the child. As you rightly point out, there is no certification for the bonding period but they are allowed to ask for "proof of birth". I've never seen the issue actually get to a judge and then go up on appeal so I'm not sure how the court will rule on the issue.

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
The FMLA form that was provided via our online HR Portal was completed by myself. 3 days later I was called on the phone, and told that was the wrong form. She emailed me another form (older I think) and said I needed to complete it to show that my newborn required medical care from me. I have the email, and the attached form if that helps clear things up.
Expert:  Dwayne B. replied 1 year ago.

You can attach it if you would like. Please attach it in JPEG or PDF format.