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I have a main panel that I believe is 200 A but need to

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I have a main panel...
I have a main panel that I believe is 200
A
but need to confirm. I believe it is bryant because the sub that was installed at the same time is a 125A Bryant. The main panel does not have a feeder breaker from PGE (it is direct lug), and has a 100A breaker going to the sub and a 50A going to an AC unit. Thanks
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Electrician: Jason, Service Technician replied 2 years ago
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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Hi thanks
Electrician: Jason, Service Technician replied 2 years ago

I'm sure you have already looked for labels on the panel, which probably don't exist.

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
have gone to 4 neighbors houses as well
Electrician: Jason, Service Technician replied 2 years ago

There are a couple of other clues you may be able to use to identify the amperage rating of the panel.

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
OK
Electrician: Jason, Service Technician replied 2 years ago

You may be able to find an amperage rating on the outdoor meter base. It's possible this could require opening the cover, if you are comfortable doing so. Keep in mind some Utility providers don't really like that, as it involves cutting their seal. Honestly, I don't usually take that into consideration if I have a good reason to open the meter base.

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Electrician: Jason, Service Technician replied 2 years ago

Perhaps a better clue is the size and type of wire running between the meter and the main panel. Have you looked for any markings on those main wires?

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Electrician: Jason, Service Technician replied 2 years ago

How many circuits or spaces does the panel have, capacity wise? In other words, how many total breaker spaces are available to you in the main panel?

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
the inspector I spoke to said that if I got the wire gauge from that area and confirmed it matched the spec sheet for a 200A Bryant panel then they would accept it as 200A. But I can't get a spec sheet from bryant as far as I can tell they don't exist.
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
it only has space for two breakers. One 100A is going to sub. One 50A is going to AC
Electrician: Jason, Service Technician replied 2 years ago

I agree with you... I believe they were bought out some time ago.

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Electrician: Jason, Service Technician replied 2 years ago

OK, so this is outdoors, adjacent to the meter?

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Electrician: Jason, Service Technician replied 2 years ago

It sounds like it is being used as a main disconnect, which would make sense. I thought it was odd that your main panel didn't have a main overcurrent protective device.

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Right.
Electrician: Jason, Service Technician replied 2 years ago

Are you able to remove the cover from the box next to the meter, and post a photo of the interior?

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Electrician: Jason, Service Technician replied 2 years ago

Also, it's sometimes pretty easy to identify the amperage rating of a meter base just by looking at it from the outside. If you can post a photo of the meter base as well, that may help.

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Sure. But what I really need to know is even if we see that the wire gauge is typical of a 200A panel, is there any literature etc. that i could use to prove it? Otherwise the city says they are not going to accept it. Thanks
Electrician: Jason, Service Technician replied 2 years ago

I'm a little surprised they are being that difficult about it. If the lugs are large enough to accept wire that is rated for 200 amps, that's pretty much a dead giveaway that the box is rated for 200 amps or more.

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
I agree. so at a loss...
Electrician: Jason, Service Technician replied 2 years ago

Thank you for posting the photos. I'll look them over now.

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Electrician: Jason, Service Technician replied 2 years ago

If you don't mind doing so, that would be good. It may be a long shot, but I'm wondering about the possibility of a label inside, that may have a number that turns up on an Internet search. Or, have you already tried that?

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Electrician: Jason, Service Technician replied 2 years ago

At first glance, the box around the meter itself doesn't look like it would be rated for 200 amps.

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
ok I will go get it now
Electrician: Jason, Service Technician replied 2 years ago

In photo number 1167, the wire appears to be 4/0 aluminum, which WOULD be rated for 200 amps.

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Electrician: Jason, Service Technician replied 2 years ago

The next shot, from closer, looks even better.

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Electrician: Jason, Service Technician replied 2 years ago

It looks like the seal on the meter is already missing. Have you pulled the meter out of the socket at all?

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Thats great news. If only I could get an old catgalog or spec sheet that could compare as proof.No, I did not remove the meter from the socket. I also noticed the seal was broken...
Electrician: Jason, Service Technician replied 2 years ago

It's possible you could find a label in the meter socket. But based on what you've told me about the local inspector, he may not accept that when determining a rating for the main disconnect next to it. I'm looking up the OD of 4/0 aluminum wire now.

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Electrician: Jason, Service Technician replied 2 years ago

Not surprisingly, I'm finding many various sizes for the OD of aluminum wire sized at 4/0. Unfortunately, at this point, it doesn't seem that I've helped you very much.

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Electrician: Jason, Service Technician replied 2 years ago

I would have expected the local building department to know the size of the service to the property (in amperage rating), unless someone upgraded it without a permit.

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
It was a long shot. I agree re. knowing the service size, esp. since many of the houses have gone solar already so this would have come up multiple times recently.
Thanks for your help. I am off to an appt. Happy holidays.
Electrician: Jason, Service Technician replied 2 years ago

And you have a blessed Christmas Season as well. Sorry we weren't able to nail it down.

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