Electrical

Electrical Questions? Ask an Electrician Online.

Ask an Expert,
Get an Answer ASAP!

Electrical
This answer was rated:

I just received Juno 5" remodel TC20R housing and the white

baffle trim 205W-WH, but I...
I just received Juno 5" remodel TC20R housing and the white baffle trim 205W-WH, but I cannot get the trim to fit into the housing. The housing has the extended clips for the butterfly type springs. The white baffle trim has the two "springs" for attachment. The baffle cannot get past he protruding clips.
Show More
Show Less
Ask Your Own Electrical Question
Answered in 16 minutes by:
8/1/2013
AssuredElectrical
AssuredElectrical, Master Electrician
Category: Electrical
Satisfied Customers: 4,241
Experience: Contractor-42+ Years in the ElectricalTrade
Verified
Welcome. My name is XXXXX XXXXX would be glad to assist.

Can you please clarify?

Are you saying that the trim ring will not fit inside the opening?

Or the trim ring hits the clips that hold the can to the ceiling?

Thank you
Ask Your Own Electrical Question
Customer reply replied 4 years ago

The trim ring hits the clips in the housing. The diameter is fine but cannot get the trim into the housing due to the clips for the "butterfly" type springs which this trim does not have.


 


Tom


 

Ok, that is what it sounded like but wanted to be sure.

The clips that hold the housing to the ceiling, are they secured?

When they are secured, that should latch against the ceiling extremely tight, and the inside should be flush with the housing.

You have to hold some pressure on the housing at the bottom and use a pair of pliers (what I use anyway) to force the clip completely tight and against the inside of the housing.
That way you have some resistance at the bottom to keep from pushing down on the sheet rock.
They will lock hard in place and the clip pinches the sheet rock between it and the ring on the housing.

If you could post a picture it would allow me to see the position of the clip inside.

Can upload a pic to tinypic.com

They will give you a link, and post that link her for accessing the picture.

Hopefully the explanation is good enough to understand , just let me know if I confused the issue any.

If the clips are not set at their end and take up space inside they can be in the way.
Otherwise, the trim should slide right by the clip ends.
AssuredElectrical
AssuredElectrical, Master Electrician
Category: Electrical
Satisfied Customers: 4,241
Experience: Contractor-42+ Years in the ElectricalTrade
Verified
AssuredElectrical and 87 other Electrical Specialists are ready to help you
Ask your own question now
Customer reply replied 4 years ago

The clips that hold the housing are secured to the ceiling sheetrock and are not the problem. The problem is that the brackets that are intended for the torsion springs some style trims are in the way. The Juno 205W trim uses regular springs and not the torsion spring. The brackets for the torsion spring is preventing the trim from fully seating in the housing.

Thanks.

I was just re reading the post and also verifying all the trims available for that housing.

After reading the comments, I was beginning to be inclined it had the tabs and it was not the expansion hold down clips in the way.

The housing is designed for 2 different styles, one being the lifting expanding style and then the torsion.

The tabs on the sides for the torsion springs to clip into and raise the trim is for those designed for the wet area location to provide the correct amount of surface pressure on the trim/gasket to prevent moisture.(215 trims are this style)

So, when using the lifting style spring trims which are wider trim inserts. you have to take a strong flat screwdriver or the sides of pliers, then bend those tabs towards the housing to get them out of the way enough for the trim to slide up past them and not catch them on the way down either.

Those are probably riveted on the Juno if I recall so there is no way to unscrew the holding bracket but to fold it over as much as possible.

Many times you can take pliers, open the up, and get them started folding before applying the pressure with the flat side.

Those tabs should easily fold over to allow the trim insert piece to get by.
It should only be a small amount of room needed.

Know it seems odd, but they make these things so universal today and many times there are changes that the end user must make for accommodating.

 

I suspect it is only a small amount of upward space that is needed? as they sell the larger insert trim to go with the 205 , to cover a little more diameter and also give more depth to the 205.

That ring alone might do the job with no modification, just need to measure how much the trim lacks making the seat against the ceiling.

The extra trim ring is the TR5-WH.

 

TR5 Trim Ring compatible with 203, 204, 205, 206, 207 trims

 


Let me know if any difficulties

Ask Your Own Electrical Question
Ask AssuredElectrical Your Own Question
AssuredElectrical
AssuredElectrical
AssuredElectrical, Master Electrician
Category: Electrical
Satisfied Customers: 4,241
4,241 Satisfied Customers
Experience: Contractor-42+ Years in the ElectricalTrade

AssuredElectrical is online now

A new question is answered every 9 seconds

How JustAnswer works:

  • Ask an ExpertExperts are full of valuable knowledge and are ready to help with any question. Credentials confirmed by a Fortune 500 verification firm.
  • Get a Professional AnswerVia email, text message, or notification as you wait on our site. Ask follow up questions if you need to.
  • 100% Satisfaction GuaranteeRate the answer you receive.

JustAnswer in the News:

Ask-a-doc Web sites: If you've got a quick question, you can try to get an answer from sites that say they have various specialists on hand to give quick answers... Justanswer.com.
JustAnswer.com...has seen a spike since October in legal questions from readers about layoffs, unemployment and severance.
Web sites like justanswer.com/legal
...leave nothing to chance.
Traffic on JustAnswer rose 14 percent...and had nearly 400,000 page views in 30 days...inquiries related to stress, high blood pressure, drinking and heart pain jumped 33 percent.
Tory Johnson, GMA Workplace Contributor, discusses work-from-home jobs, such as JustAnswer in which verified Experts answer people’s questions.
I will tell you that...the things you have to go through to be an Expert are quite rigorous.

What Customers are Saying:

You did one super job of explaining to me everything there is to know about this fridge. I'm looking forward to asking you questions in the future.

JimmyBagley, IA

Wonderful service, prompt, efficient, and accurate. Couldn't have asked for more. I cannot thank you enough for your help.

Mary C.Freshfield, Liverpool, UK

This expert is wonderful. They truly know what they are talking about, and they actually care about you. They really helped put my nerves at ease. Thank you so much!!!!

AlexLos Angeles, CA

Thank you for all your help. It is nice to know that this service is here for people like myself, who need answers fast and are not sure who to consult.

GPHesperia, CA

I couldn't be more satisfied! This is the site I will always come to when I need a second opinion.

JustinKernersville, NC

Just let me say that this encounter has been entirely professional and most helpful. I liked that I could ask additional questions and get answered in a very short turn around.

EstherWoodstock, NY

Thank you so much for taking your time and knowledge to support my concerns. Not only did you answer my questions, you even took it a step further with replying with more pertinent information I needed to know.

RobinElkton, Maryland

< Previous | Next >

Meet the Experts:

Mike

Mike

Master Electrician

1,426 satisfied customers

Licensed Master Electrician - OnQ Certified Data Voice Audio Video Installer

Jason

Jason

Service Technician

3,942 satisfied customers

Over 20 years of experience in all types of installations, troubleshooting, and repairs.

Mike G.

Mike G.

Master Electrician

7,826 satisfied customers

Proven Professional 48 years Experience

Kevin

Kevin

Licensed Electrical Contractor

3,870 satisfied customers

31 years Licensed Electrical Contractor in Illinois, Adjunct College Electrical Instructor, Former Electrical Inspector, Diploma: Digital Electronics, FCC Technician License

AssuredElectrical

AssuredElectrical

Master Electrician

4,241 satisfied customers

Contractor-42+ Years in the ElectricalTrade

electrifier

electrifier

Master Electrician

1,458 satisfied customers

Electrical contractor and electrical inspector for over 24 years with phone and networking expertise

Rich

Rich

Master Electrician

1,115 satisfied customers

Over 35 years residential, commercial, industrial wiring, install, troubleshoot, service, maintain

< Previous | Next >

Related Electrical Questions
I recently changed an outlet to a new one with usb
I recently changed an outlet to a new one with usb connection. The outlet had 2 black and 2 white. The new outlet only needed 1 and 1. I taped the remaining wires and now the lights don't work in the … read more
Mike G.
Mike G.
Master Electrician
Vocational, Technical or Trade Scho
7,826 satisfied customers
I have an electrical question. It's a new heater. Its just
I have an electrical question JA: How old is the system in question? And have you consulted an electrician yet? Customer: No. It's a new heater JA: Do you plan on doing the work yourself? Customer: Ye… read more
Sam I
Sam I
Electrician
B.S.
472 satisfied customers
I am replacing a ceiling fan with light with a new light fan
I am replacing a ceiling fan with light with a new light fan combo with a remote. I have two black wires, two white wires and one ground coming from ceiling and the fan recover is the remote and it ha… read more
Kevin
Kevin
Licensed Electrical Contractor
Diploma
3,870 satisfied customers
Have a red not hot, hot,black hot, and bare ground wire
have a red not hot,white hot,black hot, and bare ground wire coming to my cieling fan, which wires do i use? … read more
Mike G.
Mike G.
Master Electrician
Vocational, Technical or Trade Scho
7,826 satisfied customers
If I use 10/2 with ground to wire a 240v set of baseboard
If I use 10/2 with ground to wire a 240v set of baseboard heaters, which one goes to neutral? In other words, I know I need to attach two wires (black and white w black tape) to the 30amp breaker, and… read more
Kevin
Kevin
Licensed Electrical Contractor
Diploma
3,870 satisfied customers
How much can I expect to pay for a hardwired interconnected
How much can I expect to pay for a hardwired interconnected smoke detector circuit three smoke detectors in a two bedroom 900 square-foot home in Indiana lake County… read more
Sam I
Sam I
Electrician
B.S.
472 satisfied customers
I have 6 separate ltb60 20amp wall timers controlling one
i have 6 separate ltb60 20amp wall timers controlling one central vent fan .2work fine,but4 now buzz and wont work.what do i do first thanks … read more
Sam I
Sam I
Electrician
B.S.
472 satisfied customers
How many 8 awg wires can I put to Legrand Wiremold 700WH. 2
how many 8 awg wires can I put to Legrand Wiremold 700WH … read more
George Smith
George Smith
Vocational, Technical or Trade School
314 satisfied customers
I am installing a new switch on my Campbell/Hausfeld model
I am installing a new switch on my Campbell/Hausfeld model CIQ71080V compressor. The new switch has a black, white and green connections however my 220 outlet has a black, white, green and red wires. … read more
Kevin
Kevin
Licensed Electrical Contractor
Diploma
3,870 satisfied customers
Have GE z wave remote. I bought a new GE Smart Dimmer. I
Have GE z wave remote. I bought a new GE Smart Dimmer. I prepare remote to add the new dimmer. As instructed I press the button on the dimmer to connect to the network. No response from the dimmer. Su… read more
Sam I
Sam I
Electrician
B.S.
472 satisfied customers
I have a "Basic Timer" #15325 for "standard wall switch". I
I have a "Basic Timer" #15325 for "standard wall switch". I need to convert a 3-way switch activating a single lamp outlet to either a 1-way or 2-way switch. Does it matter--1-way or 2-way? … read more
Mike G.
Mike G.
Master Electrician
Vocational, Technical or Trade Scho
7,826 satisfied customers
I'm not getting any power to a certain fuse on my panel. The
I'm not getting any power to a certain fuse on my panel. The fuse isn't blown. There's just no power going to where that fuse services: 2 bedrooms, hallway, and porch light. Incidentally, last Wednesd… read more
Kevin
Kevin
Licensed Electrical Contractor
Diploma
3,870 satisfied customers
I'm trying to install a remote operated celing fan. The
Hi, I'm trying to install a remote operated celing fan. The immediately available connections from the ceiling are 3 grayish/white wires, which are connected together, and 1 yellow wire. There are 3 R… read more
Mike G.
Mike G.
Master Electrician
Vocational, Technical or Trade Scho
7,826 satisfied customers
I have some LED under cabinet lights that flicker. I am
I have some LED under cabinet lights that flicker. I am fairly certain there are plugged into a transformer. Is there an easy fix to the problem? … read more
Eddie
Eddie
Home Improvement Contractor and Repairs
High School or GED
1,040 satisfied customers
I have a Lift Master Professional Garage Door opener.Part
I have a Lift Master Professional Garage Door opener.Part #41A5021-1H-315 (IC(###) ###-#### Date 09/06 1/3 H.P. When I press the switch/botton in the wall or remote control to open the door,it opens f… read more
Mike G.
Mike G.
Master Electrician
Vocational, Technical or Trade Scho
7,826 satisfied customers
Just replaced window ac/heat unit, new unit has 120/volt.
Just replaced window ac/heat unit, new unit has 120/volt. Now I have a 220v not being used. I have a gas stove and want to hook up an electric stove to the 220v . The 220 is in a sub panel by itself g… read more
Kevin
Kevin
Licensed Electrical Contractor
Diploma
3,870 satisfied customers
We had a wall oven. we are replacing with a range that is
We had a wall oven. we are replacing with a range that is oven and cook top. The cable coming from the wall has 3 wires. The range requires a 4 prong outlet. Can we wire a 4 recipticle outlet with the… read more
Mike G.
Mike G.
Master Electrician
Vocational, Technical or Trade Scho
7,826 satisfied customers
Desperate for help from a professional electrician. I'm a
Hello, Desperate for help from a professional electrician. I'm a contractor though my knowledge in electric is very limited. Had it been a simple switch or install, I can do it no problem. This howeve… read more
George Smith
George Smith
Vocational, Technical or Trade School
314 satisfied customers
Disclaimer: Information in questions, answers, and other posts on this site ("Posts") comes from individual users, not JustAnswer; JustAnswer is not responsible for Posts. Posts are for general information, are not intended to substitute for informed professional advice (medical, legal, veterinary, financial, etc.), or to establish a professional-client relationship. The site and services are provided "as is" with no warranty or representations by JustAnswer regarding the qualifications of Experts. To see what credentials have been verified by a third-party service, please click on the "Verified" symbol in some Experts' profiles. JustAnswer is not intended or designed for EMERGENCY questions which should be directed immediately by telephone or in-person to qualified professionals.

Disclaimer: Information in questions, answers, and other posts on this site ("Posts") comes from individual users, not JustAnswer; JustAnswer is not responsible for Posts. Posts are for general information, are not intended to substitute for informed professional advice (medical, legal, veterinary, financial, etc.), or to establish a professional-client relationship. The site and services are provided "as is" with no warranty or representations by JustAnswer regarding the qualifications of Experts. To see what credentials have been verified by a third-party service, please click on the "Verified" symbol in some Experts' profiles. JustAnswer is not intended or designed for EMERGENCY questions which should be directed immediately by telephone or in-person to qualified professionals.

Show MoreShow Less

Ask Your Question

x