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I need to know what these episodes are. I have video

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I need to know what these episodes are. I have video recorded the last two. The last three have happened almost exactly one month apart. Can you watch the videos and give advice?

Veterinarian's Assistant: I'll do all I can to help. What seems to be the problem with the dog?

If I knew the answer to that I wouldn't be asking you. I don't know if it's addisons or seizures or strokes or neuromuscular all I know is the consistency and what the video shows

Veterinarian's Assistant: Seizures always look scary. Let's get you talking to the Veterinarian. What is the dog's name?

Bolt- I am not convinced their seizures he is not incoherent during them and he responds to his name

Veterinarian's Assistant: Is there anything else important you think the Veterinarian should know about the dog?

I feel if there was some way I could upload the videos from the last two episodes that would tell all

Submitted: 8 months ago.Category: Dog Veterinary
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Dog Veterinarian: Dr. Michael Salkin, Veterinarian replied 8 months ago
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Dog Veterinarian: Dr. Michael Salkin, Veterinarian replied 8 months ago

You can upload videos to YouTube or a similar app and then give me the link to them. Remember not to mark them as private.

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
https://youtu.be/WOkXTdzATOs
Dog Veterinarian: Dr. Michael Salkin, Veterinarian replied 8 months ago

Thank you. Give me a moment to take a look, please...

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Dog Veterinarian: Dr. Michael Salkin, Veterinarian replied 8 months ago

I receive the message "The video you have requested is not available."

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
https://youtu.be/lMRgxUHil_w
Dog Veterinarian: Dr. Michael Salkin, Veterinarian replied 8 months ago

Thank you. Give me a moment...

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Dog Veterinarian: Dr. Michael Salkin, Veterinarian replied 8 months ago

The video shows either a complex partial seizure (also called psychomotor seizure) or a generalized seizure (previously called gran mal) if he lost consciousness.

Mark your calendar for these events and for just what you witnessed. Bolt's vet will need all the information you can gather when deciding if Bolt should be prescribed an anticonvulsive drug. Most of us will accept one mild (lasting less than 5 minutes, no thrashing about, no loss of consciousness) event monthly before prescribing such a drug. Should he suffer another event within 24 hours of a prior one clustering is diagnosed and that may presage status epilepticus - the state in which seizure activity doesn't abate unless I heavily sedate or anesthetize my patient. Bolt would then need the attention of a vet at your earliest convenience.

Here’s a quick synopsis of the type of seizures I see:

Partial seizures (previously called petit mal): focal or asymmetric sensory or motor activity affecting any part of the body (e.g., facial twitching, chomping of the mouth); can be associated with autonomic signs (salivation, vomiting, defecation).

Simple partial seizures don’t alter consciousness. Complex partial seizures cause the same symptoms as simple partial seizures and also alter mentation (mental status) and/or cause behavioral abnormalities.

Generalized seizures (previously called grand mal) cause diffuse motor activity with loss of consciousness.

Seizures first arising between the ages of 1-5 years are usually considered idiopathic (unknown cause) epilepsy. Seizures arising after 6 years of age are often caused by brain tumor or, less commonly, adult onset epilepsy. Please respond with further questions or concerns if you wish.

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
He has one a month almost exactly a month a part. Is there anything we can do for them?
Dog Veterinarian: Dr. Michael Salkin, Veterinarian replied 8 months ago

The one I saw was severe enough to warrant anticonvulsant drug therapy in the form of phenobarbital, levetiracetam, or zonisamide. Please show the video to his vet who is likely to agree that an anticonvulsant would be appropriate for Bolt. Please continue our conversation if you wish.

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
They tried an anti convulsive med that made him bloated and lethargic and he didn't eat or drink anything it was a phenobarbital
Dog Veterinarian: Dr. Michael Salkin, Veterinarian replied 8 months ago

I would see how levetiracetam affected him. It's generally well tolerated by dogs. The most common adverse effects reported include sedation and ataxia ("drunken sailor") which should be transient.

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
Okay... but he has to be seen by a vet physically to get that? We recently moved and I haven't found a vet I'm happy with ...
Dog Veterinarian: Dr. Michael Salkin, Veterinarian replied 8 months ago

Yes, these anticonvulsants are prescription drugs only and need to be prescribed by an attending vet. You also have the option of consulting with a specialist veterinary neurologist whom you can find here: www.acvim.org

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
Thank you for all the info. I appreciate the help ! I will take him to his old vet and just drive out there for the appointment until we find a new one. Is there anything we can do while he is having the seizures?
Dog Veterinarian: Dr. Michael Salkin, Veterinarian replied 8 months ago

Regretfully, nothing more than protecting him from hurting himself when thrashing or stumbling about. You're quite welcome. I can't set a follow-up in this venue so please return to our conversation - even after rating - with an update at your convenience. You can bookmark this page for ease of return.

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
Will do! Our son has absent seizures and we have been applying the same idea of comfort during them to the dog but we're not sure if neurological problems were different in canines
Dog Veterinarian: Dr. Michael Salkin, Veterinarian replied 8 months ago

They're similar and dogs also suffer from absent seizures - a form of complex partial seizures in dogs.

I appreciate it!

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Dog Veterinarian: Dr. Michael Salkin, Veterinarian replied 8 months ago
Hi Aly,

I'm just following up on our conversation about your pet. How is everything going?

Dr. Michael Salkin
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