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Our dog Paco vomited a lot today and is listless and might

have a fever. Our other...
our dog Paco vomited a lot today and is listless and might have a fever. Our other small dog had the same thing a day or so ago and is ok now. we think they both ate something in the back yard, perhaps a lizard
JA: I'm sorry to hear that. This sounds like it might be serious. I'll let the Veterinarian know what's going on ASAP. Is there anything else important you think the Veterinarian should know about the dog?
Customer: We found a rat seizing and eventually dying in our back yard probably from poison that he picked up from somebody's yard.
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Customer reply replied 5 months ago
please don't tell us the obvious, that we should take Paco to the Vet.We know that and plan to take him tomorrow morning. It's after 1am right not. We know not to feed him and to limit his water intake.
What do we do to make him feel better now. Immodium?
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8/5/2017
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Hello & welcome, I am Dr. B, a licensed veterinarian and I would like to help you today.

What is he bringing up in his vomit?

Can he keep any water down?

Are his gums pink or white/pale? Moist or sticky?

If you press on his belly, any tensing, tenderness, discomfort, or pain?

Could he have eaten anything harmful (ie bones, plants, chemicals, human meds, etc)? Did he eat that rat?

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Customer reply replied 5 months ago
Thank you Dr. Will check the dog. one moment. please

You are very welcome, my dear.

No worries, I will keep my eye out for your reply and we can work on a treatment plan for tonight with Paco.

Dr. B.

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Customer reply replied 5 months ago
he vomited his kibble this afternoon, he drank water 2 hours ago, and kept the water down. his gums are pale, not sticky, his stomach seems firm. He's usually very active, but is listless. He's been laying down for hours.He chases lizards outside, we believe he might have eaten a lizard
Customer reply replied 5 months ago
his nose is dry
Customer reply replied 5 months ago
if he did eat a lizard, is it toxic? Is there a human digestive aid that we can give him. Paco is a miniature schnauzer mix, a rescue dog. weighs 18 lbs or so.

Hello again,

Good, that is positive to hear that he can keep water down. Though if his gums are pale, we need to be very careful as that can be a sign of internal bleeding or circulatory compromise in the gut (from foreign bodies, blockages, etc). Any doubt in the color and you can compare his gums with your other dog's gums. And I have to say that since the other dog had signs as well, we'd be wary of a possible severe bacterial or viral gastroenteritis, pancreatitis (something Paco's breed is very prone to), or shared ingestion (ie toxins, plants, non-edible items). And while we can see gastritis with some lizards, I'd be surprised if both caught one so close together. So, unless the lizards are of a size that both dogs could have had a bit, that would be less likely (and wouldn't explain the paling).

With this all in mind, we can try some home supportive care to try to settle his stomach as we keep a very close eye on him (since any more paling of if he is white we'd need him seen urgently to make sure there is no bleed or damaging blockage). To start, if he hasn’t just vomited (since otherwise we’d need to rest his stomach for a few hours first), then you can consider treating him an OTC pet safe antacid [ie Pepcid (More Info/Dose @http://www.petplace.com/article/drug-library/library/over-the-counter/famotidine-pepcid), Zantac (More Info/Dose @ http://www.petplace.com/article/drug-library/library/over-the-counter/ranitidine-hcl-zantac),Tagamet (More Info/Dose Here @ http://www.petplace.com/article/drug-library/library/over-the-counter/cimetidine-hcl-tagamet)]. Whichever you choose, we’d give this 20 minutes before offering food to allow absorption. Of course, do double check with your vet if he has a known health issues or is on any medications you haven't mentioned. Though if he cannot keep it down due to nausea, that is usually a red flag that we need to bypass his mouth with injectable anti-vomiting medication from his vet.

Afterwards, you can consider starting an easily digestible diet like cooked white rice with boiled chicken, boiled white fish, cottage cheese, scrambled eggs, or meat baby food (as long as its garlic/onion free). There are also OTC vet diets that can be used (ie Hill’s I/D or Royal Canin’s sensitivity) too. The aim of these diets is that they will be better tolerated/absorbed by the compromised gut. Therefore, it should get more nutrients in and result in less GI upset. As long as improvement is being seen, I usually advise continuing this until signs are settled, and then weaning slowly back to your normal diet.

Finally, as dehydration is a risk here, we need to keep an eye on his hydration. To check that he isn't dehydrated, there are a few things you can test. Further to checking for gum moisture, do make sure he doesn’t have sunken eyes and that he doesn’t have a "skin tent" when you lift the skin. To see how to check these parameters for dehydration, you can find a good video HERE (http://www.ehow.com/video_12232503_dog-dehydrated.html). If you are seeing any signs of dehydration already, then that would be our cue to have him seen before this becomes an additional issue (especially as it is often dehydration that makes them feel unwell).

Overall, his signs do raise some concerns here. But the most important thing just now is to compare his gums to the other dog to make sure we don't have a risky situation here. If they are similar colored, then we’d want to start supportive care to settle his stomach. If he cannot keep that or water down at any point, appears dehydrated already, or doesn’t respond to the above by the time his vet is open; then we'd want to get them to assess Paco, rule out fever, make sure there is nothing in his stomach that shouldn't be there or any sinister viruses present. Depending on their findings, his vet can treat him with injectable anti-vomiting medication +/- antibiotics to settle his stomach, and get him back feeling like himself.

Kind regards,

Dr. B.

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Customer reply replied 5 months ago
Thank you so much Dr. B. We feel a lot better about our poor boy Paco. We will take both he and Bentley to their vet first thing in the morning. Have a good night. Best regards, Martica

You are very welcome,Martica.

I am glad to be of help and wish you all a peaceful night,

Dr. B.

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