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i have 10month pit/lab mix,he has small sores and his hair

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i have 10month pit/lab mix,he has small sores and his hair is coming out and been sick

Dr. Altman :

Welcome! I am Dr. Altman, a licensed veterinarian and happy to answer your questions today.

Dr. Altman :

So sorry to hear Barley is not feeling well

Dr. Altman :

Besides the sores and hair loss, how is he showing signs he is ill? Does he have weight loss, vomiting/ diarrhea, reduced appetite, lethargy?

Customer:

yes to all

Dr. Altman :

And what came first? The hair loss/ sores or the other signs?

Customer:

first sign was just lying around with no life, then would not eat for a day, last night vomting some. does drink water and eat some. but his hair is coming out alot. took him to get a bath last monday.

Dr. Altman :

Did Barley have his puppy vaccinations at 8,12, 16 weeks old? Distemper/ Parvo/ Parainfluenza vaccination?

Customer:

yes

Dr. Altman :

Is he still lethargic, no energy?

Customer:

no acts pretty normal jumping around now

Dr. Altman :

OK good!

Dr. Altman :

And stools?

Customer:

when i brushed him today found some sores on his skin. been going to bathroom ok

Dr. Altman :

Was the bath the first one he had at a groomer?

Customer:

stools normal

Customer:

no

Dr. Altman :

OK so you have used this groomer prior? And you have not applied flea or tick prevention since?

Customer:

yes applied new one this month from walmart hertz first defence instead of frontline

Dr. Altman :

OK and when did you do that?

Customer:

put it on him around 5th of month

Dr. Altman :

This is very common to see with this brand in particular

Dr. Altman :

So before the bath?

Customer:

yes

Customer:

bath was last monday

Dr. Altman :

The hair loss and lesions can be from the hartz product

Dr. Altman :

Or he could be having a reaction to the shampoo used at the groomer's

Dr. Altman :

Sometimes they use different brands

Dr. Altman :

Is he itchy?

Customer:

shampoo is a concentrate hypo allergenic no tears same as she used everytime

Dr. Altman :

I still have seen reactions to the hypoallergenic shampoos... sometimes a new bottle they change the formula even though it is exactly the same label

Customer:

yes a litte itchy but not bad

Dr. Altman :

On a scale of one to ten, ten being the worst?

Customer:

4

Dr. Altman :

Are the sores red and oozing? Where are they on his body?

Customer:

not oozing just a lettle bloody dried up top back hind quts

Customer:

he isnt bothering them

Dr. Altman :

So the possible causes are going to be an allergy to the shampoo or the new product, demodex mites, fungal, or skin allergies

Customer:

what should i do for this

Dr. Altman :

I would try bathing him again with an oatmeal-based dog shampoo and leave it on the areas ten minutes daily to twice daily along with 1 mg/ pound benadryl every 8 - 12 hours to help with the itch

Dr. Altman :

If it is due to the shampoo or new flea prevention then this will help

Dr. Altman :

Unfortunately the lesions may require treatment with oral antibiotics to resolve

Dr. Altman :

He may need to go into your vet if there is no change or progression in the next few days for further testing

Dr. Altman :

Demodex is diagnosed off skin scrapes, fungal on a fungal culture

Dr. Altman :

I would take a picture today so that you can see how things look in a few days

Dr. Altman :

When you look at the area daily it is hard to tell how things are changing but if you have a photos it is easier to follow

Dr. Altman :

I will warn you that the shampoo may make it appear worse before better

Dr. Altman :

Because it will flush the follicles and therefore cause further hair loss before improving

Dr. Altman :

But the scabs and dried blood should turn into pink versus red skin

Dr. Altman :

But if his itching gets worse, the area grows/ becomes more red, or he is simply not improving (including becoming lethargic again) then I would advise a veterinary visit to diagnose the issue

Dr. Altman :

Unfortunately I do see demodex fairly commonly in pits and pit mixes at this age

Dr. Altman :

So if this is the case diagnosis and treatment asap is ideal to prevent progression and treat aggressively

Dr. Altman :

Neither fungal nor demodex are itchy

Dr. Altman :

Does this make sense? Can I clarify anything or assist with additional questions?

Customer:

should i put anything on the sores?

Dr. Altman :

No, typically in dogs applying an ointment can trap in moisture and cause the sores to get worse

Customer:

ok

Dr. Altman :

And if it is demodex certain ointments will actually make this worse

Dr. Altman :

I know, it is human nature to want to apply ointments but in this case I would avoid it

Customer:

should stop using the hertz

Dr. Altman :

Yes

Dr. Altman :

I have seen way too many problems with this product

Customer:

go back to frontline

Dr. Altman :

You can get the generic frontline which is pet armour

Dr. Altman :

Or go back to the frontline

Dr. Altman :

It simply is not worth the risk because if it is a reaction to the product it will be more severe next time

Customer:

ok

Dr. Altman :

Pet armour is in target, walmart

Dr. Altman :

Or stick with what you know was safe for him

Customer:

should i take hime to vet tomorow or wait to see how he is in few days. after i give him benadryl

Customer:

really dont have the money to take him

Dr. Altman :

I would give him a few days as long as he is not recurring in the vomiting, lethargy

Customer:

should he have antibiotic

Dr. Altman :

If it is the shampoo or the topical flea it should help

Dr. Altman :

Let's give him 24 hours (today +/- tomorrow) for the shampoo and benadryl to help and see how he is doing and go from there

Dr. Altman :

But please if he is lethargic get him in

Customer:

he is normal acting

Dr. Altman :

Great

Customer:

lots of enerey and wants to jump and play

Dr. Altman :

God

Dr. Altman :

Oops, Good :)

Customer:

we will try it and see how he is tomorrow

Dr. Altman :

OK great

Dr. Altman :

How else can I assist you today?

Customer:

thanks for your help

Dr. Altman :

You are very welcome

Dr. Altman :

Can I assist with any additional questions today?

Customer:

no

Dr. Altman :

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Customer:

ok thanks

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