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hello again I have a 2020 dodge caravan that wont start spoke with a tech from answers yesterday did what he said still didn't start rated him a little to fast --- need a new tech familiar with dodge --- here is my problem vehicle has 75000 mi did brakes last week ---- engine is a4.0 ---- engine cranks but wont start ,I can hear the fuel pump so I assume we have fuel even sprayrd starting fluid not even a cough I removed the plug to one of the coils there is ground but no voltage from the second wire on the plug per tech advice I changed cam sensor and crank sensor nothing happens there are no codes except for a little red lightining bolt on the upper left corner of the dash im assumeing we have no spark please help ASAP thanks again dom
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Dodge Mechanic: Lou P., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 months ago
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Hello my name is Lou.
I am going over your request now and will reply back soon with some info OR a few questions, Lou

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Dodge Mechanic: Lou P., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 months ago

did the van die on you or just not start one day?

how did this start?

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Customer reply replied 2 months ago
it didn't start one morning. it cranks over strong but will not fire up
Dodge Mechanic: Lou P., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 months ago

ok, and spraying starter fluid did not help? it did not even kick over?

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Customer reply replied 2 months ago
no nothing
Dodge Mechanic: Lou P., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 months ago

ok, did it rain before this happened or a car wash?

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Customer reply replied 2 months ago
there is a lightning bolt symbol lit up on the cluster
Dodge Mechanic: Lou P., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 months ago

are you using a key or is this a push button starter switch

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Dodge Mechanic: Lou P., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 months ago

the lighting bolt is for the throttle body

it should be on as long as the key is on if memory serves me

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Dodge Mechanic: Lou P., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 months ago

have you tried to pull codes by cycling the ignition on and off 3 times fast?

cant remember if this model will do this but almost all others do.

from off to on 3 times fast and ending with the ignition on there should be codes that start with P that will come on in the dash where the mileage is at

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Dodge Mechanic: Lou P., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 months ago

we need to see if fuse 19 has power when cranking.

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Customer reply replied 2 months ago
last time vehicle ran was sunday night. it sat all of Monday and would not start Tuesday morning. yes it rained during this time. going to cycle the key now. be right back
Dodge Mechanic: Lou P., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 months ago

ok

its possible that water entered somewhere and is causing issues as well.

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Customer reply replied 2 months ago
there is power on #19 there no p codes when I cycle the key 3 times fast. it only has dashes and says done
Dodge Mechanic: Lou P., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 months ago

ok, what about fuse m21 when cranking or key on

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Customer reply replied 2 months ago
power on #21 too
Dodge Mechanic: Lou P., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 months ago

ok that is the coil power, that means that the engine module is not allowing the coils to be activated

the coils all have power but are ground actiavated by the engine module

based on crank and cam sensor input same as the fuel injectors

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Dodge Mechanic: Lou P., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 months ago

with the key on, check all the fuses for power ,

let me know which numbers do not have power.

ill see if it leads somewhere, but i think we will need a scanner to check for codes. even though the dash does not show codes, hmm interesting.

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Customer reply replied 2 months ago
just to be clear, there is ground on #21 when the key is off or on. the only time i get voltage is when im cranking the engine
Dodge Mechanic: Lou P., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 months ago

ok thanks, ***** ***** is good.

that means that the asd relay is working. allowing the coils to be powered.

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Customer reply replied 2 months ago
the only code I got from my scanner is p0522. but I think this is from cranking the engine over and over without it starting. is that correct?
Customer reply replied 2 months ago
I probed the coil wire and didn't get 12 volts when cranking. there is ground but no power. ??
Dodge Mechanic: Lou P., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 months ago

all brown wires with grey stripe should have power

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Customer reply replied 2 months ago
correction there is power when cranking on the gray and brown wire. however there is nothing on the blue and green
Customer reply replied 2 months ago
blue w/ green stripe*
Dodge Mechanic: Lou P., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 months ago

it should be ground when the module pulses the coil

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Customer reply replied 2 months ago
on the blue W/ green stripe?
Dodge Mechanic: Lou P., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 months ago

the other wire is different for each coil but if you are checking coil 1 then yes

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Customer reply replied 2 months ago
im checking cylinder #3 thats the only coil i can gain access to. the intake covers everything else. its a 4.0 motor
Customer reply replied 2 months ago
the brown with gray stripe has ground until I crank the motor then it switches to power. the blue w/ green stripe has nothing regardless of key position or cranking
Customer reply replied 2 months ago
this is on #3 coil wires only
Dodge Mechanic: Lou P., ASE Certified Technician replied 2 months ago

alright let me opt out, maybe my info is not correct, i am looking at the right motor and right year.

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Customer reply replied 2 months ago
2010 dodge grand caravan v6 4.0 transverse motor. #3 cylinder is on driver side rear against firewall
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