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I have a 2013 ram 2500 diesel truck and the "glow plug" won,

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I have a 2013...

I have a 2013 ram 2500 diesel truck and the "glow plug" won

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Won't work if you jump in and start it (in cold) but if you remotely start it will work.

Mechanic's Assistant: Are you fixing this yourself? What have you tried so far?

I haven't done anything but I would like to fix it before winter sets in. If I can fix it myself I want to

Mechanic's Assistant: Anything else you want the equipment mechanic to know before I connect you?

No I don't think so

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Dodge Mechanic: Robert R, ASE Certified Master replied 7 months ago
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What do you mean "the glow plug won"?

So it will not start when you try to start it using the key but will start if you "remote start" it?

Keep me posted...

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Robert

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Dodge Mechanic: Robert R, ASE Certified Master replied 7 months ago

What do you mean "the glow plug won"?

Do you start it using a "Fob"? Or does it have push button start?

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Customer reply replied 7 months ago
I very liry of this! And yes when if I get in (30degrees or colder) the “glow plugs” don’t start warm. So it cold starts. But if I use the remote start the “glow plugs” preheat and then it starts.
Dodge Mechanic: Robert R, ASE Certified Master replied 7 months ago

Has the check engine light been on? Has it been scanned for codes?

How are you able to determine that the "Cold Start" system is not functioning when you get in and start it using the key?

A Dodge truck is actually NOT equipped with "Glow Plugs". It has a cold start system which consists of a "Heater Grid" on the intake manifold which warms up the in coming air as it passes through the heater grid.

I just want to be sure we are on the same page with this.

How can you tell that it is not operating properly when using the key as opposed to remote starting it?

Keep me posted...

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Robert

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Customer reply replied 7 months ago
Push button start. And yes fob
Dodge Mechanic: Robert R, ASE Certified Master replied 7 months ago
  • Has the check engine light been on?
  • Has it been scanned for codes?
  • How can you tell that the "Glow Plug" is not operating properly when getting in to start it as opposed to remote starting it?
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Customer reply replied 7 months ago
push button start. Heater grid doesn’t come on. Yes I’ve had and check engine light but it did not have an error for this. Here is a video of a push button start.
Customer reply replied 7 months ago
I’m trying to send video but it’s not wanting to send
Dodge Mechanic: Robert R, ASE Certified Master replied 7 months ago

You will need to post your video to Youtube. Post a link to your youtube video here and I'll review it and let you know my thoughts...

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Robert

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Dodge Mechanic: Robert R, ASE Certified Master replied 7 months ago

In other words, you get in the vehicle, press the brake and press the start button. The vehicle starts without pausing to wait for the heater grid to come on??

Is this the scenario where you are starting it using the pushbutton? What is the temperature when this happens?

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Dodge Mechanic: Robert R, ASE Certified Master replied 7 months ago

I also need to let you know that my responses may be delayed because I may be helping another customer, or I may be temporarily offline. Your understanding is greatly appreciated.

Thank you...

Robert

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Customer reply replied 7 months ago
27 degrees.
Customer reply replied 7 months ago
No worries I’m at work myself
Dodge Mechanic: Robert R, ASE Certified Master replied 7 months ago

This would be considered normal if you are pressing the brake BEFORE you press the start button. If you want the heater grid to come on, try pressing the start button twice WITHOUT pressing on the brake first. This should turn the ignition on without starting the engine. The heater grid should come on for at least 5 to 10 seconds. At that time, while still in run position, press the brake and then the start button to start the engine...
Try this and let me know if it works for you....

Thank you,

Robert

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Customer reply replied 7 months ago
Ok. I will have to try it tomorrow as it’s too warm here and now
Dodge Mechanic: Robert R, ASE Certified Master replied 7 months ago

Sounds good, I'll be here in case you have additional questions at that time..

Thank you,

Robert

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Customer reply replied 7 months ago
If this works what does that mean. And if it doesn’t what does mean?
Dodge Mechanic: Robert R, ASE Certified Master replied 7 months ago

It means that your vehicle is operating as designed. If I'm correct, the ECM will ONLY delay starting when pressing the brake first when the temperature is below a certain threshold which would absolutely REQUIRE the heater grid to come on. It is considered normal if the vehicle starts on the first try even with the heater grid not coming on when pressing the brake pedal first.

If there was any type of concern with the heater grid or cold start system, the check engine light will be illuminated and a related code will be stored in the ECM...

Keep me posted and let me know if you have any additional questions...

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Robert

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Customer reply replied 7 months ago
Ok
Dodge Mechanic: Robert R, ASE Certified Master replied 7 months ago

Let me know what you come up with when you start it in the morning and we can go from there...

PS - make sure to note the actual ambient temperature when you do the cold start and post it here also...

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Robert

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Customer reply replied 7 months ago
I did as you ask at 32 degrees this morning and the truck just started up without warming up first.
Customer reply replied 7 months ago
Or preheat the air
Dodge Mechanic: Robert R, ASE Certified Master replied 7 months ago

Did you press the start button twice to turn on the ignition WITHOUT pressing on the brake pedal first?? If you did this, the vehicle should NOT have started. It should ONLY have turned on the ignition to the run position. The preheat light should have came on for a few seconds...

When you started it did, it start on the first press of the start button??

Keep me posted...

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Robert

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Customer reply replied 7 months ago
I did as u instructed the light came on and went off with all the other lights then stepped on the brake. The truck started right up without the preheat.
Dodge Mechanic: Robert R, ASE Certified Master replied 7 months ago

The light coming on and then shutting off IS the preheat cycle. The length of time that preheat stays on depends on the actual coolant temperature of the engine. If you happen to be plugging in the block heater, the preheat cycle will be VERY short. At this time, I would have to conclude that the cold start system is functioning as designed. Especially since engine is starting at first try. If there was an issue with any of the components that comprise the cold start system, the ECM would have set a diagnostic trouble code and the check engine light would remain illuminated.

As the weather becomes colder you will find that the preheat light will remain on for a longer period of time. If you happen to use the block heater religiously, you will probably NEVER have a long preheat cycle for more than a few seconds.

I'm posting some pages from the owner's manual diesel supplement that explains cold starting and that it is normal for the preheat cycle to vary depending on actual engine tempurature (NOT ambient temperature).. --->> Click Here to view <<---

Keep me posted and let me know if you have any additional questions...

Thank you,

Robert

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