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this can be 2 things a failed or sticking LOCK CYLINDER(where the key goes in) which is too tight from wear and age to return fully to the run position, the beginnings of a failure (crack in the mechanism of the LOCK CYLINDER HOUSING, which again will not allow the lock cylinder to fully return to the run position OR a failed ignition switch itself which has a weak spring inside and cannot return the lock cylinder to the full run position.
as i remember in years past when one of these would run across my bay with this issue the LOCK CYLINDER was the primary culprit, HOWEVER with a 16 year old van any of the 3 can be the cause now, i would start with a lock cylinder and ignition switch FIRST and then replace the lock housing assembly if needed
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What I noticed by doing some more checking was that when I turn the ignition on I am not getting any accessories working , but as soon as I bump the starter all accessories comes on ( windows, radio, front and rear blower) . But If I start the car the accessories stops workin.
like i said the MOST LIKELY cause is the ignition switch is not returning fully to the RUN position, it was quite common on the 02 and 03 vans
wiggle the key and see if the accessories start working
I bought a new ignition switch and am using it with a screw driver, completely eliminating the tumbler but its doing the same thing..
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Its normal for those accessories to turn off when in the start position. This allows all current from the battery to be delivered to the starter, starter needs a lot of current and this is a feature to reduce the other loads on the battery.
Have your starter tested, or try jumping the solenoid to see if it turns over.
Check around the main fuse box for a loose connection. Also check that your alternator is charging, and check the battery voltage. Look for loose cables and grounds. Check the wiring on the back of the engine, it is common to touch the exhaust pipe and melt together.
It does sound like an ignition switch problem, but you said you already replaced it.
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Are there any wake up signal that could keep the accessories from working. When I turn ignition on no accessories comes on, but as soon as I turn the ignition enough to bump the starter accessories comes on. But once the vehicle starts the accessories cuts off
Are there any wake up signal that could keep the accessories from working. When I turn ignition on no accessories comes on, but as soon as I turn the ignition enough to bump the starter accessories comes on. But once the vehicle starts the accessories cuts off. what I notice is if I have the ignition on engine off the accessories are on, blower motor, radio, power window. why when I pull the starter relay off all accessories cuts off. I am checking the sense wire and sense wire return on the ignition switch what voltage I should read on these wire
Check the accessory relay in the TIPM