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When backing up with brakes lightly applied if I turn the

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When backing up with brakes lightly applied if I turn the wheel I get a repetative clunking sound and vibration. Vehicle is a 2003 Dodge Durango SXT/Sport 4.7L V8 MPI.
JA: Do you have power steering? Have you checked the power steering fluid? Are you hoping to fix this yourself? What have you tried so far?
Customer: Yes, I have power steering. No, I haven't checked the fluid. No, I have contacted a mechanic friend of mine for some help with the diagnosis. I have tried nothing as I didn't know where to start. Seemed to me it was somehow related to the brakes as it only occurs when brakes are applied. But brakes work fine otherwise. Steering works fine otherwise as well.
JA: Anything else you think the mechanic should know?
Customer: It also occurs when I turn left or right from a stop and ease off the brakes slowly. Moving either forward or backward with brakes applied and wheel turned either left or right.
Submitted: 1 year ago.Category: Dodge
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Customer reply replied 1 year ago
Thanks.
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7/28/2016
Dodge Mechanic: sprinkles08, Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep master tech replied 1 year ago
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Hello and welcome to JustAnswer!

It's definitely possible that the problem could be with the brakes but it may also be in the rear differential, front differential, a front CV shaft or possibly the transfer case. Brake noise seems likely if it happens when pressing the brake pedal but that wouldn't explain why it happens when turning, brake noise should be present whether you're turning or not.

Can you tell if the noise comes from the front or rear?

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Customer reply replied 1 year ago
Difficult to say, but if I had to guess it seems like it is coming more from the rear.
Customer reply replied 1 year ago
It is also more prevalent when the vehicle has first been started after resting overnight. After 20 minutes of driving it is not as likely to make the clunking noise as it is before the trip.
Dodge Mechanic: sprinkles08, Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep master tech replied 1 year ago
Will it only happen with the brake pressed or any time you're turning tightly at slow speeds?
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Customer reply replied 1 year ago
Tried different movements this morning to see what combination of thongs would make it happen. When backing out of my parallel parking space, the clunking could be heard and felt seemingly from the rear and only when brakes were applied in reverse with wheel turned. Felt like brakes were grabbing and slipping and grabbing and slipping. As I continued in reverse and straightened the wheel it stopped. As I turned in the other direction it started again. Wheel didn't need to be turned tightly for this to occur, maybe only 10 or 15 degrees.
Customer reply replied 1 year ago
Couldn't make it occur this morning while moving forward with brakes applied, but came to the first intersection, stopped in the right turn lane with steering wheel turned slightly. When light turned green I removed my foot from the brake and applied gas and as the car started moving forward I felt it again with just two short clunks before the car accelerated and I completed my turn. Brake was not applied at that time. Sort of felt like my rear wheel was trying to spin but not gripping the road, again like a feeling of grabbing and slipping and grabbing and slipping.
Customer reply replied 1 year ago
By the time I got to work 20 minutes later I creeped backwards into a parking space and did not feel or hear anything. Seems to be more predominant when the car is "cold". (Cold is a relative term in Florida. Perhaps "rested" would be more accurate.)
Dodge Mechanic: sprinkles08, Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep master tech replied 1 year ago

Have the brakes been looked at yet at all? I think you may be hearing noise from the differential clutches.

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Customer reply replied 1 year ago
Not yet. I am planning on having the brakes examined this weekend. I just thought the symptoms might suggest the need to focus on something else and that you might be able to recognize the problem and point me in the right direction. Sounds like you are as puzzled by this one as I am. I agree with you that if it was just the brakes I wouldn't expect the noises to be affected by the steering.
Dodge Mechanic: sprinkles08, Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep master tech replied 1 year ago

Unfortunately I'm unable to hear the noise.

Based on the description I believe you're actually hearing noise from the limited slip clutches in the rear differential, it may not actually be related to applying the brake.

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Customer reply replied 1 year ago
I will look at the brakes and the rear differential tomorrow and let you know what I find out.
Hopefully it is one or the other.
Dodge Mechanic: sprinkles08, Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep master tech replied 1 year ago

Great!

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