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Truck cranks over but won't start

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Truck cranks over but won't start
Submitted: 2 years ago.Category: Dodge
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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
1998 dodge ram 3500 24v diesel.
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
I primed the fuel to the fuel filter canister but dont think im getting any fuel to injectors.
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Was told there was a fuel shutoff selinoid that had a clip on it that goes bad but dont know where that is.
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Dodge Mechanic: sprinkles08, Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep master tech replied 2 years ago
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There is no shutdown solenoid on a 24 valve engine.

There are many possible causes for a no start, the most common on this truck would be the injector pump, transfer pump, or being out of fuel due to an inaccurate gauge.

Does the transfer pump run?

Have you checked for fault codes?

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Main tank pump works. When i turn the key the heat box (glow plug box) comes on. I turn the key and it just turns the engine with out starting. After i release the key the injector pump is on for a little while then turns off.
Dodge Mechanic: sprinkles08, Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep master tech replied 2 years ago

The injector pump is driven by the engine. The transfer pump is mounted to the left rear of the engine area and is probably what you're hearing continuing to run. There isn't a pump in the tank unless someone has installed one there.

Have you checked for fault codes?

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Havent checked for fault codes. Check engine light is not on. Pump is in the tank.
Dodge Mechanic: sprinkles08, Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep master tech replied 2 years ago

You've had an aftermarket pump installed or a Mopar conversion kit?

Where does the noise come from after the starter disengages?

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Bought it with a pump installed in it. The noise comes from the transfer pump.
Dodge Mechanic: sprinkles08, Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep master tech replied 2 years ago

What area is the noise coming from?

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Back left of the block
Dodge Mechanic: sprinkles08, Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep master tech replied 2 years ago

You do have the original transfer pump setup then.

Place a drain pan under the fuel filter drain line and open the drain. Bump the starter and allow the pump to run. Do you get a solid, strong stream of fuel for 25 seconds?

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Check that when i get home plus scan it to see if i get any fault codes
Dodge Mechanic: sprinkles08, Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep master tech replied 2 years ago

Great!

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
P1693 and two for P0234 are the codes that come up.
Dodge Mechanic: sprinkles08, Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep master tech replied 2 years ago

Did you do the other test I described?

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Bummed the key and opened the drain and only drained the canister. I didnt have the fuel pump on thats in the tank.
Dodge Mechanic: sprinkles08, Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep master tech replied 2 years ago

If you bumped the key to run the transfer pump and it didn't pump for 25 seconds then either the pump has failed or you're out of fuel. Add five gallons or so of fuel and try the same test again.

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
If i turn the pump from the tank on it will keep pumping fuel.
Dodge Mechanic: sprinkles08, Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep master tech replied 2 years ago

Do you have a fuel pressure gauge?

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
No
Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Im not out of fuel either.
Dodge Mechanic: sprinkles08, Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep master tech replied 2 years ago

Have you had a helper crank the engine while you opened injector lines to check for a strong spray from each one?
Does the tach move when cranking?

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Will try that
Dodge Mechanic: sprinkles08, Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep master tech replied 2 years ago

Ok.

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
How much fuel do i expect to come out?
Dodge Mechanic: sprinkles08, Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep master tech replied 2 years ago

It should be a fairly forceful spray each time the cylinder would fire.

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Then no forceful spray.
Dodge Mechanic: sprinkles08, Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep master tech replied 2 years ago

Does the tach move when cranking?

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Dodge Mechanic: sprinkles08, Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep master tech replied 2 years ago

A scan tool should really be used for an accurate diagnosis but if there is ample fuel to the injector pump, crank signal is present and the engine doesn't start then there is little chance the injector pump has not failed. It would be a good idea to test for power and ground at the pump module before condemning it.

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Are you talking about the pump thats on the back left of the block? Or is there a pump module for the injector pump?
Dodge Mechanic: sprinkles08, Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep master tech replied 2 years ago

The injector pump mounts to the timing gear case cover above the power steering pump. The pump module is part of the pump assembly.

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Okay so ive started over from the begining and im getting fuel to the transfer pump. I took off a couple of the injector hoses and im getting a steady squirt into the heads. How do i check to see if the heat box ( glow plug ) is working?
Dodge Mechanic: sprinkles08, Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep master tech replied 2 years ago

There are no glow plugs.

If you have ample fuel to the injectors and the fuel is good then the engine would run if it was mechanically sound.

Were all cylinders checked for fuel?

You're familiar with the normal amount of spray for this engine?

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Not 100% but it looks regular. Is there anything else that would stop the engine from turnning on? Sensors of any kind that would tell the computer not to turn on?
Dodge Mechanic: sprinkles08, Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep master tech replied 2 years ago

The only thing you need for the engine to run is for it to be mechanically sound and quality fuel delivered to the injectors under enough pressure for them to pop.

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Crazyist thing just happened i knew i needed to change the oil so i did that and it started right up. Wierd.
Dodge Mechanic: sprinkles08, Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep master tech replied 2 years ago

Hopefully the problem doesn't return!

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Indeed
Dodge Mechanic: sprinkles08, Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep master tech replied 2 years ago

Fingers crossed!

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Toes arms feet
Dodge Mechanic: sprinkles08, Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep master tech replied 2 years ago

Good luck with it!

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago
Thanks
Dodge Mechanic: sprinkles08, Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep master tech replied 2 years ago

You're welcome!

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