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2005 dodge grand caravan: code p0016 cam crank sync..crank sensor

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i have a 2005 dodge grand caravan has code p0016 cam crank sync. have replaced crank sensor.
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Dodge Mechanic: Stonyman, Ase Master Technician replied 7 years ago
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Hi.How does the vehicle run? What are the symptoms if any?
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run rough when step hard gas .
Dodge Mechanic: Stonyman, Ase Master Technician replied 7 years ago

It could be a bad cam sensor, your voltages are good, but the out of sync code can be a tough one. You need an oscilloscope to test the square wave pattern. This code can be a sensor, timing chain, or the most common, a bad flex plate. When the flex plates break/crack, it throws off the timing window, thus giving you an out of sync cam and crank sensor reading. I usually measure the crank and cam square wave patterns and then measure the milliseconds difference between the cam and crank. This may be to in depth, but this is one of those problems that this comes in handy and is sometimes necessary.

 

Here is a diagnostic tree for this and some of the possibilties.

 

P0016-CRANKSHAFT/CAMSHAFT TIMING MISALIGNMENT

When Monitored: Engine cranking and Engine running

Set Condition: Powertrain Control Module detects an error when the camshaft position is

out of phase with the crankshaft position. One trip fault.

POSSIBLE CAUSES

INTERMITTENT CONDITION

CHECKING INTERMITTENT CMP SIGNAL WITH LAB

CMP WIRE HARNESS INSPECTION

TONE WHEEL/PULSE RING INSPECTION

CKP WIRE HARNESS INSPECTION

TONE WHEEL/PULSE RING INSPECTION

INTERMITTENT CKP SIGNAL

CAMSHAFT POSITION SENSOR

CRANKSHAFT POSITION SENSOR

TEST ACTION APPLICABILITY

1 WARNING: WHEN THE ENGINE IS OPERATING, DO NOT STAND IN A

DIRECT LINE WITH THE FAN. DO NOT PUT YOUR HANDS NEAR THE

PULLEYS, BELTS OR FAN. DO NOT WEAR LOOSE CLOTHING.

Ignition on, engine not running.

With the DRBIIIt, read DTCs and record the related Freeze Frame data.

With the DRBIIIt, erase DTCs.

Start the engine and run until operating temp is reached. (Closed Loop)

If the DTC does not reset it may be necessary to take the vehicle on a test drive.

Does the DTC reset?

All

Yes ! Go To 2

No ! Refer to the INTERMITTENT CONDITION symptom in the

Driveability category.

Perform POWERTRAIN VERIFICATION TEST VER - 5.

 

TEST ACTION APPLICABILITY

2 Turn the ignition off.

With the DRBIIIt lab scope probe and the Miller special tool #6801, backprobe the

(K44) CMP Signal circuit at the CMP harness connector.

WARNING: WHEN THE ENGINE IS OPERATING, DO NOT STAND IN A

DIRECT LINE WITH THE FAN. DO NOT PUT YOUR HANDS NEAR THE

PULLEYS, BELTS OR FAN. DO NOT WEAR LOOSE CLOTHING.

Start the engine.

Observe the lab scope screen.

Are there any irregular or missing signals?

All

Yes ! Go To 3

No ! Go To 6

3 Visually inspect the related wire harness. Look for any chafed, pierced, pinched, or

partially broken wires.

Visually inspect the related wire harness connectors. Look for broken, bent, pushed

out, or corroded terminals.

Ensure the Crankshaft Position Sensor and the Camshaft Position Sensor are

properly installed and the mounting bolt(s) tight.

Refer to any TSBs that may apply.

Were any of the above conditions present?

All

Yes ! Repair as necessary

Perform POWERTRAIN VERIFICATION TEST VER - 5.

No ! Go To 4

4 Turn the ignition off.

Remove the Camshaft Position Sensor.

Inspect the Tone Wheel/Pulse Ring for damage, foreign material, or excessive

movement.

Were any problems found?

All

Yes ! Repair or replace the Tone Wheel/Pulse Ring as necessary.

Perform POWERTRAIN VERIFICATION TEST VER - 5.

No ! Go To 5

5 If there are no possible causes remaining, view repair. All

Repair

Replace the Camshaft Position Sensor.

Perform POWERTRAIN VERIFICATION TEST VER - 5.

6 WARNING: WHEN THE ENGINE IS OPERATING, DO NOT STAND IN A

DIRECT LINE WITH THE FAN. DO NOT PUT YOUR HANDS NEAR THE

PULLEYS, BELTS OR FAN. DO NOT WEAR LOOSE CLOTHING.

Start the engine.

Gently tap on the Cam Position Sensor and wiggle the Sensor.

Ignition on, engine not running.

Inspect the Sensor harness connector, PCM harness connector, Sensor connector, and

PCM connector for loose, bent, corroded, or pushed out pins/terminals.

Inspect the related wire harness and the splices in the (K44) CMP circuits.

Did the DTC reset?

All

Yes ! Repair the wiring/connector concerns as needed or replace the

Camshaft Position Sensor.

Perform POWERTRAIN VERIFICATION TEST VER - 5.

No ! Go To 7

 

TEST ACTION APPLICABILITY

7 Turn the ignition off.

With the DRBIIIt lab scope probe and the Miller special tool #6801, backprobe the

(K24) CKP Signal circuit at the CKP harness connector.

WARNING: WHEN THE ENGINE IS OPERATING, DO NOT STAND IN A

DIRECT LINE WITH THE FAN. DO NOT PUT YOUR HANDS NEAR THE

PULLEYS, BELTS OR FAN. DO NOT WEAR LOOSE CLOTHING.

Start the engine.

Observe the lab scope screen.

Are there any irregular or missing signals?

All

Yes ! Go To 8

No ! Go To 11

8 Visually inspect the related wire harness. Look for any chafed, pierced, pinched, or

partially broken wires.

Visually inspect the related wire harness connectors. Look for broken, bent, pushed

out, or corroded terminals.

Ensure the Crankshaft Position Sensor and the Camshaft Position Sensor are

properly installed and the mounting bolt(s) tight.

Refer to any TSBs that may apply.

Were any of the above conditions present?

All

Yes ! Repair as necessary

Perform POWERTRAIN VERIFICATION TEST VER - 5.

No ! Go To 9

9 Turn the ignition off.

Remove the Crankshaft Position Sensor.

Inspect the Tone Wheel/Flex Plate slots for damage, foreign material, or excessive

movement.

Were any problems found?

All

Yes ! Repair or replace the Tone Wheel/Flex Plate as necessary.

Perform POWERTRAIN VERIFICATION TEST VER - 5.

No ! Go To 10

10 If there are no possible causes remaining, view repair. All

Repair

Replace the Crankshaft Position Sensor.

Perform POWERTRAIN VERIFICATION TEST VER - 5.

 

TEST ACTION APPLICABILITY

11 NOTE: The conditions that set this DTC are not present at this time. The

following test may help in identifying the intermittent condition.

WARNING: WHEN THE ENGINE IS OPERATING, DO NOT STAND IN A

DIRECT LINE WITH THE FAN. DO NOT PUT YOUR HANDS NEAR THE

PULLEYS, BELTS OR FAN. DO NOT WEAR LOOSE CLOTHING.

Start the engine.

Gently tap on the Crank Position Sensor and wiggle the CKP Sensor.

Turn the ignition off.

Inspect the Sensor harness connector, PCM harness connector, Sensor connector, and

PCM connector for loose, bent, corroded, or pushed out pins/terminals.

Inspect the related wire harness and the splices in the (K24) CKP circuits.

Were any problems found?

All

Yes ! Repair the wiring/connector concerns as needed or replace the

Crankshaft Position Sensor.

Perform POWERTRAIN VERIFICATION TEST VER - 5.

No ! Test Complete.

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